I refunded msfs2024-aviator edition after 25hrs of playing on Steam

Well I went for a refund now. I am unable to invest weeks into tweaking and finding a way to get it as stable and visual balanced as 2020. Also there are so many new Bugs while old Bugs where not fixed or reintroduced. I see the potential, but I am not willing to alpha test this thing any longer.

  • Lower FPS by 20-50 on high end CPU +RTX 4080, JFK is unflyable.
  • ATC voices still go missing
  • ATC Window cannot be resized anymore
  • Long loading times, some elements never load
  • frustrating UI and UI effects, slow UI
  • Deleted features like Copilot reading Checklists or flying the aircraft
  • aircraft randomly shutting down
  • Sim randomly not reacting to inputs anymore > needs alt+F4
  • Photogrammetry cities look like melted zombie cities from distance, that got worse compared to 2020.
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Just to add, I only bought on Saturday, yesterday, when server issues were improving. I was really looking forward to the cool new planes, king air c90, why build a second king air where no electrical or bleed systems are simulated, no rudder boost, nothing. Didnā€™t Jƶrg say the planes should be payware level? Why not finish one king air? Also, who tested the Saab? I cannot bind the prop levers and I saw tickets on that already. Then some bugs seem to come and go, not sure if this is the result of the streamingā€¦ But overall, Iā€™m really disappointed :disappointed:

I can live with the bugs, the first two days were super disappointing but now it works and I guess next months most will be fixed.

For me, the price of the aviators ed with all the new planes is super cheap. VR worked OOTB with only minor bugs on VR side. I love it tbh.

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Iā€™d rather have fewer planes, like a single well modelled king air, than so many but they arenā€™t really well done.

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Did the Aviatorā€™s Edition even come with the aircraft advertised? I didnā€™t buy it because I already had so many of them, but I have almost none of the ones I should have. I canā€™t imagine how upset Iā€™d be if I was a new player and paid $200 just for half the aircraft to show up missing.

I can imagine how upset Iā€™d be. Not very, as Iā€™d understand that there are teething issues that will get worked out and in the meantime Iā€™d fly all of the other planes that are available.

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Iā€™m one of those people and Iā€™m actually fine with it. I have half of a heck of a lot of planes to explore, which means still a lot of planes. I know the rest are coming (itā€™s highly unlikely Iā€™ll have fully explored the ones I currently have before they get here), and I get to explore them in the best world and skies, and arguably flight model, of any sim out there.

I think, having that and knowing the rest is coming, if youā€™re not happy then the problem may not be on the MS / Asobo sideā€¦

You never ever buy a game then have half the game working 9 days later. Thatā€™s just not a thing. Itā€™s never been a thing. I donā€™t see anywhere on Steam where it says you can spend $200 on the Aviators edition but many of the planes will show up randomly at later times.

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My favourite part of FS 2024 was requesting, and receiving a refund.

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I donā€™t know if Iā€™ll go for the refund or not (I have far exceeded 2h of gameplay, although barely 20minutes will be of flight, aand I donā€™t feel like having to give explanations) but what Iā€™m sure is that I wonā€™t come back to 2024 for some months.
Too many Marketplace content is not available yet, textures and scenery quality is a lottery and also there is that terrible thing with controls. I spent some time the other day trying to setup the relatively simple CL-415 ones, but I didnā€™t manage to fully do it in the 45+ minutes I was fighting with the new UI.

So Iā€™ll wait in 2020 till taking the time and effort needed to setup 2024 correctly is worth the experience you get afterwards (may be even the community comes with an addon to make setting up easier)

EDIT: just to add that even when I pre-reserved the Deluxe edition I didnā€™t even tried to get in on day one and when I tried two or three days later it all was quite fast and straighforward.

Your hyperbole is noted. Well more than half the game has worked for me since early on day two of release. Yes, I have a handful of airplanes that havenā€™t moved over yet, but in the meantime, Iā€™ve got 100+ airplanes in my hanger I can fly instead. Personally, I choose to not cry about it and fly some of those planes. Your choice is clearly different.

I donā€™t get this. The 2024 controls settings UI is little different than 2020ā€™s. Yes, itā€™s pretty terrible, but so was the previous version.

The new one has a different layout (which I VASTLY prefer, but thatā€™s pretty subjective.), but it functions essentially the same. You choose what physical controller you want to assign commands to, then you choose the commands from within not-always-intuitive categories, and assign them. Thereā€™s even some more advanced options that werenā€™t available in 2020 thatā€™ll let you get your ingame controls to work the way you want.

From a pilotā€™s perspective I cannot take this post seriously, sorry. FS2024 from its aerodynamics and physics alone is so far ahead of FS2020, there is a reason they had to release a new sim to fix those scuffed ground handling of aircraft. The transition from ground to air and vice versa was horrible. Now its much closer to the real thing.
And binding the controls now is much more intuitive once you get used to it, but that might be subjective.

From a gamer perspective I agree that there are some bugs that can take immersion from the experience, things that can happen at big launches like this and will most likely be fixed in the months and years to come.

FS24 > FS20 by far already

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I hope they give us what they promisedā€¦ But not sure about it anymore.