I’ve run Into fewer quirks with the Max than the MD11.
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I’ve made several full flights on Vatsim with the Max now, in busy staffed areas, and they’ve all gone smoothly. I really can’t understand why some folks are seemingly having so many problems with the plane. I’ve seen a few VNAV quirks but nothing much worse than what I’ve come to consider normal on the PMDG; certainly nothing that would crash me or even get me violated lol. The plane has been an absolute pleasure on the network.
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Absolutely. Im keeping my wallet firmly shut until I see iFly release an update or two to better understand their commitment to post-sales support. And then there’s 2024 around the corner. Its a very fluid environment at the moment.
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However, in commercial airliners there are very few CBs that flight crew are allowed to touch. It’s normally a case of calling engineering and pointing at the one that’s popped.
HAs anyone else found the autopilot doesn’t follow heading or LNAV? Mine just goes in large circles, doesn’t respond to any heading or any flightplan…completely broken. so far I’m pretty disappointed…
It’s hard to know how to respond without knowing more about your own controller setup, how you’ve programmed the FMC, FMC mode like LNAV, VNAV, etc … there’s just too much that might be wrong.
Personally, I made another nice short flight from KMDW to KBNA. The plane flew the RNAV Z to runway 2 Center really nicely, though I “cheated” by adding in the transitional waypoints from the actual chart into the FMC to let it fly the curve rather than just waiting for Beyond ATC to vector me in following the last waypoint on the STAR. As it happened, BATC’s vectors were pretty close the RNAV waypoints anyway.
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its a hard pass, for me.
to many problem, in this state.
i’ll wait til its on par with pmdg.
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As I read the comments to many it is already on par with the PMDG. However I too will be holding off till the finished product and release in FS2024. But as it looks now I’ll get it for sure. I wonder how it will compare to the FS2024 Asobo Max.
im currious what is the big deal breaker for you?
becasue honestly besides the taxi being too sensitive i thinks its quite a good plane.
I can’t imagine the Asobo MAX being objectively better in many ways, aside from being “free” with the purchase of the sim. It will look okay (I would expect similar to the stock 747-8 and 787-10), it will fly okay, and most of the buttons will click. That will satisfy most casual simmers I’m sure. I’m also sure it will be commensurately lighter on system performance than the iFly.
Anyway, I’m enjoying it for now. As of today it’s 6 flights in 4 days, totalling about 12.5 hours, give or take. That’s <$12 per flight or $5.60/hour. Increasingly “worth it” with each flight. Shrug
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i think exactly the same as you!
the free one is going to be fun to fly… but it wont have in depth simualtion of all the syystems and i definetly dont expect it to have a good sound design as the Ifly 737
its a product that is definelty worth it!
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why are they making release complicated doing a ‘pre release’?
the visuals look amazing, great cabin etc. but for me, I won’t get it because they are still in a weird release method, we’ll get a free Max in a month, and apparently from comments here there isn’t confirmation of 2024 support. Let alone the price
I’m guessing they pre-released this to maximize sales prior to FS2024 and Asobo’s Max, as well as beating PMDG to the punch. When 2024 comes out, maybe they predict a pause in overall purchasing while everyone gets their feet wet. Probably a good overall strategy.
I’m still on the fence on getting this for the weekend, or hanging tight.
I have flown on vatsim with Max with full ATC coverage on a selected short haul route - So far no issues, Yes there are bugs here & there but it is fully flyable on Vatsim with full capability of what you might be asked to - Holds/RNP Approach/Complex SIDS & STARS.
Yeah I forgot to mention - I do fly the MD-11 freighter variant from TFDi, In my opinion, the ifly’s max is similar if not bit better then MD-11.
I might even fly for CTP event tomorrow - that’s If I get free time from controlling! 
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Who says you can’t fly and control at the same time? That’ll stretch your multitasking skills. 
Would be weird to make calls to yourself in your own airspace, tho.
I was a bit surprised with how many people were flying the PMDG 777 on VATSIM literally less than an hour after it was released. But I’ll bet the iFly 737 Max has a much lower learning curve with someone with PMDG 737 NG skillz.
The way connecting to network work as of now, it does not allow you to make multiple connections. You can either be connected as a pilot or as controller, Can’t do both at the same time. It would cool though to connect as both and see yourself on radar screen! 
PMDG’s 777 was most hyped product of all - many people were waiting for proper long haul aircraft as at that time the only long haul option was either A310 from inibuilds or B787 from horizons. When 777 from PMDG got released - their website almost crashed with hundreds if not thousands of people trying to buy at the same time. The release was also announced publicly so more people were aware.
With ifly’s max however since it is a pre-release they have not publicly announced anywhere except their discord server. So those people who aren’t discord users and those who don’t check forums won’t know the plane got pre-released. Also it is very similar to 737ng so many people who own PMDG’s variants won’t bother with max unless they are passionate about max or they really want to fly max because for instance if they fly for virtual airline for example. I am still seeing fare few numbers on Vatsim - similar to when MD-11 got released. Once ifly publicly announces the release - I am sure this numbers will increase.
In terms of flying the max - they are very similar to NG, a pilot who has flown NG can easily fly 737 max. All of the flows and procedures are almost identical to 737ng. The only difference is different engines & bigger screens. There are some system differences with NG but they are minor. Very similar to what Airbus had done with their A320 neo & non neo variants, the only exception is Boeing had removed the traditional smaller screens and replaced it with massive screens along with few changes to switches layouts. There are upgrades to flight controls systems and other onboard computers on MAX -That’s why pilots do short differences training when transiting from NG to Max. Whereas Airbus had standardised the flight deck on their NEOs with older non neo aircraft so pilots don’t need additional training.
From a simmer’s perspective, there’s very little new to learn about operating the plane itself, aside from a slightly different start procedure (wait until the “MOTORING” indication disappears from the engine display before introducing fuel, for instance), moving the location of the autobrake knob location, and the lack of an “Off” position for the gear lever, that sort of thing.
Rather, the biggest difference for most of us is the pre-flight loading and prep workflow differences compared to, for instance the PMDG NG lines. There’s a couple very specific things that are done through the EFB on the iFly that are quite different in nature and you just have to learn those and figure out how to do them.
(FUN ASIDE: I watched a JustPlanes video on YT this morning covering a Turkish 777 flight from Istanbul to Tokyo and the EFB they were using on that one was exactly like the iFly MAX EFB, including the clunky and awful method of selecting and displaying in-flight charts. So iFly definitely got that correct in terms of following the old-fashioned early-Aughts’ Boeing design, lol).
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AFAIK Emirates also use the stock Boeing EFB’s in their 777’s. And you’re right, iFly’s EFB is practically a perfect simulation 
I’m pretty certain you can introduce fuel as soon as you start the engine, much like the systems in the 777 and newer NGs.
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You can but all the comments I’ve seen from type-rated guys say not to. Dunno. Maybe @FormerSnail5736 or @Stearmandriver2 can add something here.