So a couple of weeks ago I updated Nvidia drivers to 471. 11 but they didn’t install even though I selected clean. Sim crashes before launch. Keeps happening. RTX2080Ti. I look at the drivers to see older drivers!! FS still crashes on launch. Tried several times to uninstall and reinstall drivers to no avail. Clean install still saving old settings. I grab DDU (graphics cleaner utility) and run it in safe mode while disconnected from internet. Reboot, reconnect net, go to Nvidia to see another update 471.41. Download and a clean install WITHOUT GeForce Experience (it changes the sim settings!!). Sim launched OK. Flew 7 hours yesterday. Made 1000 hours. Boot PC today. FS won’t launch again! Go through driver out and in again and it launches. What is going on here?? Drivers are not sticking?? Win 10 21H1 i9 10900k, 32GB 3200 DDR RAM, not oc’d. Always ran fs fantastic until now.
Source bad_module_info Summary Stopped working Date ‎13/‎07/‎2021 11:08 AM Status Report sent Description Faulting Application Path: bad_module_info Problem signature Problem Event Name: MoAppCrash Package Full Name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.17.3.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Application Name: praid:App Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 00000000 Fault Module Name: StackHash_0000 Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Code: 00000000 Exception Offset: PCH_84 OS Version: 10.0.19042.2.0.0.256.48 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 0000 Additional Information 2: 00000000000000000000000000000000 Additional Information 3: 0000 Additional Information 4: 00000000000000000000000000000000 Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: bfcfbe4637fed3a8864db7d7c0eee298 (1607142779323867800) Source FlightSimulator.exe Summary Stopped working Date ‎13/‎07/‎2021 10:58 AM Status Report sent Description Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.17.3.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Problem signature Problem Event Name: MoAppCrash Package Full Name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.17.3.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Application Name: praid:App Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 60c0b1e3 Fault Module Name: AudioDevProps2.dll Fault Module Version: 2.6.4.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 60b0a9e5 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 000000000001ba66 OS Version: 10.0.19042.2.0.0.256.48 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: b9a0 Additional Information 2: b9a0a08b4579bbaa181b6b0851ec6d2e Additional Information 3: 0640 Additional Information 4: 06405185c34f4b2555f7e96884e5e86b Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 498f2cee3ae9aea6ca14a86cffe4141c (1879312130623411228) Source FlightSimulator.exe Summary Stopped working Date ‎13/‎07/‎2021 8:07 PM Status Report sent Description Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.17.3.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe\FlightSimulator.exe Problem signature Problem Event Name: MoAppCrash Package Full Name: Microsoft.FlightSimulator_1.17.3.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe Application Name: praid:App Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 60c0b1e3 Fault Module Name: CoherentUIGT.dll Fault Module Version: 2.9.5.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 5fc6aa59 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 000000000013f507 OS Version: 10.0.19042.2.0.0.256.48 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 2826 Additional Information 2: 2826e1ebdfb8a8bd55e32da561a5e41f Additional Information 3: d7a9 Additional Information 4: d7a907319b65ecb3f0e814dce84f922d Extra information about the problem Bucket ID: 558d2ec2a8bd2238918ea29e176dff32 (1265127345219305266)
Try running the Windows Reliability Report. It summarizes all the mambo-jumbo in the system logs. It reports on all applications having problems. There are other Windows diagnostic tools if needed.
Unable to uninstall sonic. Not listed in programs. Tried disabling it and Nahinic but they just start up by themselves. Fs is running now but only after reinstall graphic drivers. Can’t keep doing this. Why and from where did sonic get put in? My Z490 uses Realtek.
I think you are doing a lot right but this is what I do:
download a trusted (older) driver you want to install and put it on the desktop for easy install
turn off internet
-boot up into safe mode
-uninstall old driver with DDU
-reboot (still unconnected to internet)
I then use a utility (can’t remember the name tbh) to instal the new driver but which strips out all the stuff you don’t need. You have control of exactly what you want/don’t want installing.
reboot
connect back to the internet
The new driver should then be installed without any remnants of the old driver or any new driver which Windows would try to install if you didn’t disconnect from the internet.
If something is still not working right I personally would look at all 3 appdata folders there to see if anything else was not uninstalling but maybe don’t do this if you are not happy with doing so.
My 1st day with enough time to go for this. To begin, I thought I’d grab the mobo sound drivers before booting into safe mode. They’re still downloading since noon today. Now 5:04pm with another 15 minutes to go. It’s unbelievably slow - Realtek download throttled to about 20 to 25kb/s!! 6 hours to download those drivers. What’s the point in superfast broadband?? Oh well. Got other things done. 2 posts above - no mention about when to re-install Graphics card drivers. I assume after running DDU in safe mode? Then do the Realtek after normal boot?
Don’t want to mess this up. I might turn the pc off when these drivers finish downloading and check here tomorrow. This is maddening because I built this rig myself only 7 months ago. Everything was fresh. How does Win 10 and /or Windows store/drivers stuff things up like this? Don’t they know what Asobo is doing and vice versa? Bad question…
Anyway, I’m in Perth Western Australia so I’m 12 hours ahead of NYC (born and bred there) standard time. I can wait.
Cheers folks
I guess all that work was for nothing. Had it working, but sim update 5 today wrecked everything!! I’m not alone. Nothing but CTD every time. I think I’ve tinkered enough to realise Asobo are winging it, excuse the pun.
Right click on “start” icon and select “shut down or sign out” > “shut down”.
Also disable hibernate
How to
In windows search bar type CMD
Right click on CMD and select run as administrator
Copy the command below and paste into CMD (right click to paste into CMD)
After that right click on “start” icon and select task manager or at the same time press
CTRL ALT DELETE and click task manager.
Click startup tab and disable all non microsoft apps (right click)
In windows search bar type
msconfig
Right click on it and select run as administrator
Ckick Services tab.
Check box “hide all microsoft services” and then select disable all > apply > ok
Rstart PC.
Thanks @TenPatrol definitely worth doing these before throwing in a towel. I’ve invested quite a lot into this sim. It ran so well until the Nvidia trouble that was really Windows driver clashes. I got rid of Sonic too - good riddance to that. I don’t want spacial headphones. I’ve had surround sound with Realtek all this time. I’m fine with it.
Will report back. Thanks again
Great stuff my very knowledgeable friend! Your advice has been invaluable and spot on.
It’s all good again - really really good!! Performance has actually improved with this update. I retract my downtalk of Asobo. I’m not sure what they did technically. It was a large download when combined with the updates in content manager as well. It seems that most things were overwritten because disk space, after decompression, didn’t reduce nearly as much as I thought it might.
The only thing I can’t seem to find are the 4 Asobo TBM 930 (Daher) downloads showing in profile > content manager > community. I’m not in front of the PC just yet, but to memory, one of them is TBM 930 as traffic. Perhaps it’s a free download in marketplace that I haven’t found - it says that these 4 items aren’t installed.
Anyway I’m really happy that I can fly again. Stopping quick boot wasn’t something I would have though to do! How did you figure that one out? No need to answer that .
Using msconfig to limit unnecessary processes is something I’ve been very used to from the early days of flight simmimg.
On that note, I really appreciate your help. I put the towel back in the linen closet