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Marshallers, at all locations, are incorrectly positioned. The marshaller should be positioned on the left hand (port) side of the aircraft when viewed from the cockpit. If positioned on the nose, as they are now, they are invisible to the aircraft captain. This is most important when flying GA aircraft and paricularly with tail draggers
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I guess you also need to report these marshals to the real life authorities, then for standing at the wrong spot.
I wonāt bother, Iāll just pay my respects at their funerals. 
Hello,
I recommend to do this as in real life, turn your head to better position, seat yourself at better position or move yourself to better position generally 
I usually use the Cockpit View Upper button to have my camera slide up to have better view of the marshall. Like this.
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IRL OMICOM4146 I spent 40 years working (military) aircraft and mostly at the sharp end so I do know what is possible, what is safe and what is not. I have marshalled everything from V Bombers to fast jets to helicopters. Mostly, these days in the RAF, large aircraft are finally positioned by a crew chief on a long lead talking to the captain.
IRL if you are marshalling a single engine tail dragger from a position on the nose there is a better than 50-50 chance that you will die at some point. I have personally sliced up half a dozen marshallers in my X Cub. The cockpit view āupper buttonā wonāt get you a view over the nose of a tail dragger, thatās why you taxi one of these in an āSā pattern.
Yes,
understand that, s pattern usually used, same like on FW190. I have my keyb cursors defined as move of my head/body so expect use this. Tail dragger is hard to keep visually with line, also open side window or canopy is frequently used. Eeehm forget to say, nice long time pro experience with your work, nice.
Thanks for the kind words. I should perhaps add that, at the end of my career in the RAF I was employed by a UK Defence contractor as Senior Lecturer in Aviation Maintenance and as a āhands onā instructor for aircraft ground handling and prep for flight. Admittedly on fast jets.
An example of a more correct position to stand although I would personally prefer if he were further to the right.
An extract from the guidance.
*"Where possible signals should comply with North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Standardization Agreement 3117, Air Standardization Coordinating Committee Air Standard 44/42a, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) signals. The marshaller will signal facing the aircraft while standing in one of these positions: *
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*Fixed-wing aircraft. The marshaller will stand forward of the aircraft to the pilots left. Remember if you can not see the pilot he can not see you! *
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Helicopters. The marshaller will stand in front in full view of the pilot."
In the sim I have my āeye positionā bound to the Top Side Hat on my T16000 HOTAS throttle. No matter what position, I can not see ground staff directly ahead of the aircraft in the X Cub, Savage Cub or T6. I have never tried the Pitts or Extrem 300. Not too bad in the DA40 or DA62 but visibility would be a lot better were they displaced to the side and definitely not within the prop disc.
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Could it be just a local thing, or a military thing that just applies where you live? I personally never see marshalls standing to the side. But then again, my experience is only on civilian airports waiting for a commercial airliner to park to the stand. And I always see ground marshallers stand straight at the end of the line, as I shared the video a few posts up.
In the prop video, the marshall can still see the pilot, so thatās kinda fits your rule of if you can see the pilot, the pilot can see you.
As for the 747 video, the marshall is standing a bit further up from the stopping line, so he can still see the pilot on the upper deck. Instead, thereās a second marshall thatās closer to the line which is definitely outside of the view range of the pilot. So heās actually the one doing the signaling based on the nose wheel position, and the main marshal carrying the batons are merely mirroring the signals given by the secondary marshall near the line.
Again, Iām by no means an expert in it. So while I can agree that your point does make sense. I personally never see ground marshals standing to the side on every civilian airport that Iāve ever been to on every airline parking.
And all I can do is speak from experience backed up by actual video footage thatās available. And hereās a couple more. So based on these video evidence on what happens under real world scenario. Iām not sure if the positioning of the marshalls in the sim can be considered a ābugā that needs fixing.
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This is neither a āmilitary thingā nor is it just applicable to the UK and nor is it āmy ruleā. The military acceptance of the standards is acknowledged by NATO and by ASICS (formerly the ASCC). The standard is accepted by ICAO, NATO and by the EASA, CAA and FAA.
For me, not a truck or a bus driver, but as a low and slow driver, it is most definitely a bug when I completely lose the marshaller as soon as I turn to approach them head on - with a whirly meat slicer in front of me. It is currently wrong.
Okayā¦ Iām just wondering if this is a standard accepted by ICAO (Iām only looking at ICAO here, Iām not a citizen of any NATO, EASA, CAA, ASICS or FAA) then why do almost every marshallers Iāve seen on the ground for the last 30 years never follow that standard. Surely something as standard as this should be trained and do it by everyone everywhere.
Besides, the location of the marshallers is a global setting in the sim in relative to the size of the parking type. Not the aircraft. Meaning even if youāre on a TBM if you park in a Gate (Heavy) parking type, the position of the marshallers would be at the exact same spot as if youāre parking on the 747 at the same parking type.
So if this is were to be changed in the position. it will apply to everyone in every aircraft (yes including helicopter) unless thereās a separate helicopter parking spot that the sim has categorised separately. And I can bet you, thereās going to be another bug report saying that the marshall position is not straight and in the wrong position, and weāre going around in circles debating on āwhoās right.ā
And what if itās the First Officer handling the control of the aircraft, F/O will have been sitting on the starboard side of the aircraft, and if the ground marshallers are standing on the port side, they wonāt be able to see them at all. At least standing in the middle would have made the marshalls visible for ābothā pilots at the same time regardless of whoās controlling the aircraft.
And I think there you have the hub of the problem mate. If that were genuinely the case then I guess it should be relatively straightforward (Iām not a software geek ) to have the marshaller in a better position for GA slots compared to gates with jetways. TBH I donāt think a large aircraft proceeding to a gate really needs to be marshalled at all, there are plenty of visual references to ensure that it ends up in the right place. I reckon that the marshaller only comes into play if something untoward happens. Different if parking on an open ramp of course.
Well most airports arenāt really first world quality with high-tech VDGS system for the pilots to use. Even large airports that has jetway bridges may not have it, and still requires marshallers to do. Like I said, Iāve been around airports in major countries in Indonesia, and they all have marshallers park 737, 777, A320, A330 to gates. And they all stand straight on the nose.
I guess the solution here can be straightforward, (theoretically) just to edit the reference point of where the marshallers going to spawn in relative to the parking space and that should apply globally. But I disagree if this were to be a āfixā. I think it would be nice as a āmodā instead. You know, give choice to players whether they want this marshall repositioning or not. If they want, they can install the mod and voila. For those who are happy with the current position, can just not install the mod.
This topic has been viewed 212 times as of this post and thereās only 4 votes. thatās only 1.89% agreement ratio. So I dunno, manā¦ Not looking goodā¦
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Youāre right, 4 of us aināt gonna get a lot of leverage 
I like the MOD idea. Now who can I try and press gang into that 
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