General question here for those who have purchased iniBuilds aircraft before. How do they compare to PMDG or Fenix or Aerosoft (especially considering the incoming A350)?
I mean, I wouldn’t expect it to be study level per se, but I also have no desire to buy something as low-level as the default arcade stuff either. I fly PMDG and Fenix almost exclusively but am also looking forward to Aerosoft’s A330.
Have other iniBuids airliners been fun for higher level simmers? Do they do a decent job of simulating preflight procedures, startup, etc?
Really like the idea of a good A350 and it looks spectacular.
In general terms they make good planes but often very poorly optimized for fps.
Their A300 is very good, the A310 is slightly below but good, A320 is quite good.
I would say they are a step below Fenix and PMDG in systems and specially performance but their visuals are very very good.
My experience with iniBuilds airplanes is generally at acceptable levels. Their A300 is perfect example - handles and flies fine, majority of the systems are simulated. A310 on other hand which came as a free update has lesser systems then A300. I don’t find their A320 neo to be that immersive, FBW A320 does better job.
Overall they are perfect for someone who wants to step up from default aircraft but yet not ready to take on full fidelity aircraft. As others have mentioned above - their systems are not at PMDG level but still complex enough to keep you busy.
Thanks everyone! Kinda what I was thinking. Sound like the A350 might be one I try out. I like to go through all the SOP motions and enjoy every detail possible being accurate but don’t care about failures, etc. A350 would be a nice add for my fleet!
If you look at inibuilds forums I think they have released FAQs for A350 and it is looking promising, Majority of the systems are going to be simulated, Both models A350-900 and A350-1000 will be available on release (With ULR Long range variant to be released as free update later).
I think their A350 is going to be big hit as presently we do not have any good A350 for MSFS.
My opinion is that IniBuilds are usable airliners but medium quality builds.
Not detailed enough because only major systems are implemented.
I personaly like the PMDG 737 and also FBW A320neo they have much more systems implemented. I eagerly await for de new A380 that is in development by the FlyByWire group and hopefully coming before the end of this year.
Out of curiosity (I haven’t flown FBW A320neo since Fenix came out)… What FBW A320neo has that IniBuilds version doesn’t? I came back to neo when Microsoft released IniBuilds’ A320v2 and I enjoy it a lot.
To the OP… I think you will really enjoy their A350 because they apparently step up the game with that and they clearly have ambitions to join the top league next to PMDG, Fenix, Just Flight and some others.
As someone else said, useable but not great quality.
There are lots of systems bugs and things that don’t work properly.
The A300, which is their flagship product for MSFS, has just had a big update, yet still the FMC gets so confused if you start editing things, adding restrictions etc, editing the flight plan. This is an example of the type of systems bugs in the aircraft.
There are plenty of other annoying bugs with it as well, like the ZFW does not match between the EFB and the CDU. Switches are all inconsistent in which way you have to scroll the mouse wheel. Lots of irritating things like this that just suggest poor quality control.
It just depends how deep you want to get with it.
As for the A320… it’s best just to consider that a decent default aircraft rather than anything quality, and to be fair to inibuilds, it is a default free aircraft.
My other half is an A350 pilot irl, so will get them to do a few flights and report stuff. But I don’t have great experience of inibuilds responding to these things. I did the same thing with the A320 which they used to fly and the experience wasn’t great, and plenty of stuff that just went totally ignored. But I’ll try anyway, if I can do anything to make the aircraft better for all, it’s worth the effort to go through the process in the hope that something might come of it.
The inibuilds airliners are acceptable. But they are way too heavy on the fps and they have bugs.
The Mu-2 is made by inibuilds and it is quite bad. Zero systems depth (acceptable if that’s what Ms asked of them) and it is full of bugs (not acceptable).
Having flown both inibuilds A320 neo and FBW A320, I find there are several bugs with systems/simulation with inibuilds version, also it doesn’t sound as A320 neo, Displays on PFD/ND seems odd, VNAV is bit wonky, Actual handling of A320 is bit odd too.
FBW A320 on other hand does better job with actual system simulation and handling. Also sounds are better. With latest new FMS software that was released, it is now more enjoyable to fly. Even though if FBW uses default asobo model - The internal systems simulation is better. Plus FBW gets updated frequently.
I guess I remember you from the A320neo thread and these complaints which from some reasons I don’t experience (maybe I’m just lucky). I can’t rate sounds because I’ve never been in the A320neo’s cockpit during flight. And what has always kept me from the FBW version (and actually what was the reason why I stopped flying it when Fenix was released) is that it can’t do proper RNV approaches. IniBuild’s A320neo has that simulated and that’s why I went back to the neo and was nicely surprised and actually even impressed.
But there are two dedicated threads about those aircraft and this thread is about their aircraft addons quality in general which I find very good. Their A300 is after the latest patch awesome imho. Their payware airplanes are also different story than those made for Microsoft. And A350 is another payware product of theirs. Plus reading the FAQs about the airplane, I have high hopes.
Yeah their A300 is awesome - In fact out of three inibuilds aircraft, I fly A300 the most. Even hand flying that thing is more enjoyable. System simulations is also at the level, Sounds good too although at higher speeds the engines sounds does dissipate but other then that very good airplane.
The local legends programs have a fairly disparate level of products between developers and I find inibuilds aircraft to be in the upper range.
A very good point is that they respond and correct reported bugs on their discord. Including on less popular aircraft, like the goose, for each I’ve reported once.
I have flown with the InI builds A 350’s rather extensively. I am a retired 747 Captain and wanted to explore the dark side as I have made a number of A350 Pacific crossings as a passenger. The 2020 version works very well and is a pleasure to fly (even by hand). The 2024 versions do not fly well at all by hand, a completely different experience. I have had some other issues with the 2024 version and have had to remove all my cockpit view axis as I get a drift in 2024 which makes it impossible to program the MCDU. The biggest beef s that it’s almost unflyable by hand, note that I am a very experienced heavy aircraft pilot.
The A350 is far and away the best-looking airliner I’ve ever seen rendered in a flight sim.
It’s also missing major features (RTA, constant mach, alternate flight plans) and the level of simulation depth is very, very low. For example, the electrical system loads on the ECAM don’t change when you turn off an entire generator - although that should mean the loads of the remaining generators increase. Nevermind simulating actual individual loads of individual systems.
There’s a lot like that - the engine start sequence, for example, isn’t a simulation but just a prescripted set of numbers that get shown. Air temp doesn’t affect EGT, and you can even turn off bleeds in the middle of the start sequence and it’ll start anyway.
Why they invested enormous development effort for a full suite of failures and interactive ECAM abnormal checklists…but not to actually simulate the underlying systems…is totally beyond me.
There’s also a very bad input lag bug that I’ve made tons of noise about on their forums and Discord, including video evidence. One of their developers watched the videos and said “Yeah that’s not right at all” but then a couple days later someone else from the company said the flight model was perfect and I’m just bad at flying. Still not fixed, needless to say - it’s not clear whether they’ve admitted it’s a bug or not.
The potential is incredibly high, the execution and price point are quite poor. Their customer service is dismal.