Intel ARC - A Series & B Series Graphics Card (GPU) Discussion Thread

I unfortunately had to make the decision to replace my Intel Arc A770 after 5 months of use.

The reasons are basically issues with flight simulators and addons that I use. The first is GSX Pro in MSFS 2020/2024. Since January this year, there has been a compatibility issue related to Intel graphics drivers with couatl.exe, which is responsible for GSX to work.

Because of this issue, GSX Pro is not compatible with Intel Arc GPU or even with Intel iGPUs from 11th generation processors and above, which use the same graphics drivers. From what I could see, this is a problem for Intel to solve. I did everything I could: I posted on Intel’s forums, I pestered the GSX developer to go to Intel’s forum and show that he’s willing to collaborate with them to solve it, but Intel’s responses were disappointing in this regard, in addition to the silence even with the GSX dev willing to work with them on a fix.

The impression I have is that Intel’s devs are convinced that since the problem is related to a game “mod” and not the game itself, this is a problem for the mod dev to solve, not them.

Even with this issue, I was still able to use the GSX Pro with my A770 using a workaround, which worked until the latest GSX update, when this workaround stopped working and now I’m unable to use the GSX until the problem is fixed.

I personally consider the GSX Pro to be an essential add-on for immersion in my flight simulator sessions and this recent non-functioning of the GSX, along with the slowness of Intel devs in fixing this, was what most motivated me to abandon the Arc A770.

Another reason is the performance in X-Plane 12. I also use X-Plane 12 and the Arc A770’s performance in it is bad. It runs worse than my old RTX 2060, which wasn’t all that great. I once did a long haul flight on XP12. I took off with about 25-26 fps, and after 8 hours of flight, on final approach, the fps dropped to below 10 and stayed that way until landing. I did the exact same flight on my 2060 and it managed to maintain about 30 fps both on takeoff and landing.

The Intel Arc cards didn’t even have official XP12 compatibility at the time I bought the card. They added official compatibility some time later. But even so, Intel Arc performance hasn’t improved since then. Unlike the GSX issue, the Arc’s low performance in XP12 is something for the X-Plane devs to fix, but I can understand their lack of urgency in doing so considering that Arc cards have less than 1% market share. In fact, this is something that affects Intel Arc in other games as well, where performance is below expectations compared to competitors, and the devs of these games have no urgency to improve/fix this due to the low number of Intel Arc users.

I decided to buy an RTX 5060 Ti 16GB. It’s ironic because I spent several months badmouthing the RTX 5000, saying that it’s Nvidia’s worst generation, that they’re overpriced and have several problems, and now I’m buying a card from the series that I’ve openly criticized until now. I’m waiting for it to arrive.

It’s a shame that I have to get rid of my Arc A770. It works well in MSFS 2024 and also in 99% of the games I have without many problems and with good performance, but I should have listened to the advice I wrote in this thread months ago about not being a paying beta tester for a newly released product line. I can criticize Intel devs for not being as proactive in fixing issues, but I’m not going to go around trash-talking Intel Arc because of specific issues with selected applications, when everything else works fine.

I wish Intel all the best with this Arc GPU line, that one day may be as popular as the two main brands currently (Nvidia and AMD) and that maybe in the future, I can go back to using Intel Arc.

New driver is available: ## 6876 Beta ##

For all ARC cards plus iGPUs.
This is the 94th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

New driver is available: ## 6877 Beta ##

For all ARC cards plus iGPUs.
This is the 95th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

New driver is available: ## 6881 WHQL ##

This is the 96th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

Hi, have you solved this? I’m having the same issue with MSFS 2020 and GSX Pro. Same error.

As I said, this is an issue for Intel to fix, not the GSX dev. I reported this issue back in January and so far they have given it little to no attention. I believe that since they think the issue is with a ‘‘game mod’’’ and not the ‘‘game’’ itself, it is the mod dev’s job to fix it, not them.

For months, I was using a workaround that worked up to version 3.4.7. With the 3.5.3 update, the workaround no longer works and there is basically no way to use GSX on an Intel Arc unless you can find a way to install version 3.4.7 where the workaround works. You can try asking the GSX dev for that version and the files for the workaround.

I have no confidence that Intel will fix this issue any time soon.

That really sucks. Money down the drain. Too bad I can’t just replace my laptop’s GPU. Really a downer for me and makes the experience non-immersive.

A question to anyone that has insight into this.
I have an A770 that I use on FS24 for VR.
The desktop monitor is 4k, and is powered by the iGPU.
Is it better to keep these separate, or have the A770 power both?
Thanks

Hi @StuLes20
I would use the A770 to power both. The iGPU has no virtual memory of it’s own, so some system RAM is allocated to create virtual memory for it. The amount is usually configured in your BIOS. For example, if you have 32 GB of system RAM, you could configure 16 GB in BIOS to be used for VRAM for the iGPU. But that only leaves 16GB of RAM to run MSFS + everything else running in Windows.

I have one 55" 4K TV & two 32" 1080p monitors. I’ve experimented with running the 2 1080p monitors on my iGPU, and the 4K TV on my Arc 770, and found that there was no improvement to performance of MSFS.

To the contrary, I’d get bluescreens due to system memory exhaustion. Running the 2 1080p monitors on my 770 in addition to my 4K TV has no noticeable impact on performance in MSFS, though if one were to run another 3D app at the same time as MSFS there probably would be.

Hi @SmotheryVase665
Thanks for taking the time to answer.
I am surprised. So I tried it.
Baseline:
iGPU-Monitor VR headset A770
A770-monitor VR headset A770. Almost identical FPS
A770-monitor VR headset A770. iGPU turned off in ‘device manager’.
reduction in monitor fps, but increase VR FPS.

Is turning the iGPU off in device manager different in any way to turning it off in BIOS?
Regards
Stu

That may depend on your motherboard. As mentioned, some system RAM is allocated to create virtual memory for it. The amount usually can be configured in BIOS.

If you disable the iGPU in BIOS, I’d expect that the amount allocated would become zero. What I don’t know is if the iGPU is enabled in BIOS, but disabled in device manager, will the amount still be zero?

In other words, does BIOS always reserve the allocated amount, or is the reserved amount just the maximum value that windows can “request” when the iGPU is enabled?

In my BIOS, since I don’t use the iGPU on my PC, I’ve allocated the minimum amount (128 MB):

You can see that when enabled, it uses a very small amount of memory. With only the Arc:

Arc + iGPU:

So on my system, it looks like any system memory used by the iGPU is released when disabled in device manager.

Your results on your system using VR + monitor may be different from my 3-monitor setup.
If you don’t plan to use it, I’d suggest disabling the iGPU in device manager. Easy enough to re-enable it if, later on, you think doing so has caused problems.

Thanks mate.
Do you fly heli’s at all. Shoot me a PM if you do.
Stu

New driver is available: ## 6913 WHQL ##

This is the 97th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

New driver is available: ## 6972 Beta ##

This is the 98th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

New driver is available: ## 6987 WHQL ##

This is the 99th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

Hello.

Instead of 3060, Im thinking of getting the 580 instead. Is is stable now for MSFS 2024? Thanks

As long as you don’t use GSX Pro, B580 is stable for MSFS 2024.

New driver is available: ## 6989 Beta ##

This is the 100th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

New driver is available: ## 7026 WHQL ##

This is the 101th driver released.

Intel® Graphics Driver for Intel® Arc™ B-Series Graphics, Intel® Arc™ A-Series Graphics, Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics, and Intel® Core™ Ultra Processors with Intel® Arc™ Graphics.

Download the .exe.
Select “Customize” then “ Execute a Clean Install”.

Then select Reboot.

I have installed this driver to my i7-14700K iGPU

For those with GSX Pro, today’s GSX update (3.7.1) has fixed the compatibility issue that prevented the add-on from working with Intel Graphics drivers.

Now Intel Arc users can resume using GSX Pro without any issues.