Issue with turbulance at high altitude

and yet im getting bumped everywhere, so the cloud ceiling is around 8k and im at 31k why am i constantly getting bumped around?

yours truely TBM @31 thousand FEET

Ok so just out of curious i set CLEAR SKYS and still im not finding stable rock solid air, anywhere?
i watch videos of a dude who flys in Florida in a TBM and he finds smooth air all day long, whats up here?

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Most likely turbulence from mountains / hills below. And yes, those do go up to FL310 in the real world too.

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oh ok, but its everywhere and always?

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Could you please change the title of this thread to more clearly define what it’s about?

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The skies are really lively. If you want smooth air, Try flying over water on the clear skies preset. If it bumps there for you too, then maybe there’s something wrong with your setup/sim.

Also doublecheck your flight model is set to ‘Modern’ from the settings.

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i have watched Steve fly the TBM for years now, and i have yet to see him encounter turbulence even at lower altitudes that i see at 31k with Live weather. Watching him at 17 msl over florida he may as well be sitting in a Solid tank of stability, just doesnt seem right.

no clouds no mountains, what is bumping me around, the aircraft should be ROCK SOLID STABLE.
if flown enough to know how it feels to be at 31 thousand feet, just saying it seems completely unrealistic.

again, test first with the ‘Clear skies’ weather preset over water, and see if it’s smooth for you there.

If it’s still bumping for you there, there might be something wrong with controller calibration etc etc.
Also; doublecheck you’re on the Modern flight model.

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Watching videos of aircraft being flown isn’t a good indication if the cameras are fixed. The cameras will move with the aircraft and with the turbulance so you’ll see nothing.

At altitude there is a thing called clear air turbulance caused by the shear between air masses, jet streams etc. Doesn’t have to be from wind bumping into mountains. But if you are using the clear skies preset, also try turning the wind down to zero and see if you still get it.

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thats a good point, but i am pretty sure i have sat in a airplane for like 5 hours crossing the country and it was rock solid? maybe just not seeing the windows or the inner ear motion made it feel solid.

Doesn’t he mostly fly over ocean, and near Florida?

Regarding turbulence at altitude, I posted a link to a video a while back describing clear air turbulence, mountain waves, and other phenomena, which reach up very high. One part explains that these waves could be found 2000miles downrange from the terrain that created them.

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I almost finished a rtw trip with the TBM and I know what you mean, but it is not constantly when you fly with live weather. Just had lot of turbulence today on my flight from Gibraltar to Ibiza, but only over the Spain Mountains westbound of Ibiza.
Sometimes you get a lot of turbulence if you coming to the edge of different weather systems. I guess the sim just making a hard cut between different weather and then the aircraft is shaking like a wild horse for a moment.
But I never faced it constantly like you said.

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Yes, that switch is somewhat obvious when you know what to look for. A sudden, but brief, buffeting of the aircraft with a corresponding rapid change on the altimeter as the QNH changes.

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I was flying into Jackson Hole this early morning over the Wyoming mountains from the east in the Longitude.

As I descended through FL400, the mountain turbulence kicked in really severely. The aircraft was being thrown around all the way down to about 15,000ft.

I use ForeFlight with all my flights, and it was showing light to moderate turbulence over the same area, but what I experienced in the sim could only be described as severe.

I have always found that the turbulence over mountains at high altitude is overdone. I often see no turbulence forecasted in ForeFlight but identical severe turbulence in the sim.

Everything seems exaggerated to me
 Turbulence, ice, etc.

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Turbulence is seldom forecasted. Turbulence is normally only reported by PIREP. I can tell you that you have NEVER encountered SEVERE turbulence in the sim. Even before they ‘dumbed’ it down, turbulence was very subdued compared to the real world. Severe turbulence can easily reduce a non-pilot to tears and has been known to put the fear of God into many a licensed pilot.

A light breeze over undulating ground is all that is required to generate turbulent air. As @hobanagerik mentioned, that mechanical turbulence can affect the air many hundreds of miles downrange. IRL, uneven heating, temperature differences and unstable airmasses can and do create turbulence even without any cloud being visible.

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Thanks for your reply. I’m not a real world pilot, and my only experience of turbulence (including one instance of severe turbulence which lifted us all - coffee included - out of our seats) has all been in passenger aircraft, so thanks for the education!

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If anything, the turbulence is too weak. Real world turbulence can drop an airliner a couple thousand feet, that’s why pilots actively try to avoid it :slight_smile:

In MSFS you can fly through big storm cells without too many issues.

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I can only remember having a “rock solid flight” when flying in those rare, extremely cold winter nights with calm winds. Even then, if getting anywhere near the jetstream, turbulence would be encountered near the interface.

The atmosphere is always moving and causing diverging currents. Next time you are sitting in the airliner, look out the window at the wingtips. Pretty sure you will see movement out there and its not because the wings are loose.

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