A wonderful well made aircraft, a real gem! Well done Just Flight.
Well worth the money and I will spend many hours with it, that’s for sure.
One more night shift to go then I can purchase this amazing aircraft tomorrow 
off for a week then so this will be getting plenty of flight time
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Interesting stuff. I worked for 3 years in the tower at a RAF Hawk training base and never saw a drop tank used. The photo looks like it was taken in the 80’s when the TWU Hawks still sported the camouflage paint scheme. They may very well have been making a sales pitch to a foreign government at the time. I was at RAF Chivenor '90-'93.
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I very much want to love the hawk but this aircraft is so unsatisfying to fly
On takeoff the nose is so light and twitchy, very bad dolphin nod effect
On landing (or rather attempt to land), once the landing gear is down, the aircraft drops like a brick even without any flaps, two flights ended in crashes on approach to the airport
Is everyone having fun with the hawk? I’m so puzzled, maybe it is just me but at this rate i’m not planning to touch the hawk anymore
Flies fine for me, touchdown smooth as butter at RAF Valley, full flap, 120 knots, heavy crosswind too but no problems. Quite a bit of power required to maintain airspeed so I suspect you dropped the ball there and stalled out.
Takeoff is fine also. This aircraft’s flight model was tested by real Hawk pilots, so I suspect it’s probably very close to the real thing ( within MSFS current limitations ).
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That reminds me of my first flights in the CRJ!
But the harder to master, the more satisfying a plane will be in the end. So, don’t give up!
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Thanks, for me CRJ is super easy to fly…
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IIRC in the latest dev video, this will be available in SU7, as it was implemented for the F/A-18.
It is a bit squirrely on the takeoff roll in a crosswind, but nothing you can’t keep under control with a bit of fancy foot work… 
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Yeah, you can’t compare the Hawk to the CRJ. It’s entirely different and fighters in general are a completely different animal when it comes to technique. None of the stuff from GA or airliners apply here other than aerodynamic principles.
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I’m having great fun with it. I think planes like this in the sim are closer to what some refer to as ‘study level’ meaning of course that you do need to study and learn how to fly it. Truthfully all the fast jets in the sim have required some level of study to learn how to fly properly and get the most out of. though I guess you could say that about a lot of planes in the sim but its especially the case with fast jets.
I’ve been flying the Hawk out of my home town of Edinburgh airport and round the Scottish highlands today and I’ve only managed to land it perfectly once. It does descend very quickly and you have to get used to it. I’ve put about 7 or 8 Hawks in the Firth of Forth on the approach to Edinburgh airport 
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Happy to know i’m not the only one crashing hawks!
Maybe it’s my own expectations
I’ve been putting hours in DCS since July and got pretty decent with the jets there
So when I try the hawk I thought it should feel similar or easier being a trainer jet
The hawk’s flight model and the light nose feeling are totally unexpected
So one very small thing that I think could be added…the RAT is silent. I have done several RAT/ADG deployments on the Challenger 604 and Global, and the RAT is most definitely not quiet…it’s annoyingly loud (and in those aircraft you can’t re-stow it)… Like I said, it’s a small thing, but when the sound set on the Hawk is so great, it is something I noticed immediately when the RAT deployed.
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There are RAT deployment/retraction and windmilling sounds but we can increase the volume of the latter.
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That would be great, but I should add that I am not a Hawk pilot. I fly a Global these days and the RAT is located close to the cockpit on the right side of the airplane. It is a loud, relentless droning buzz that makes it hard to think, let alone talk. We have to do a ‘RAT drop’ every couple of years to check that it is functioning correctly, usually before the aircraft goes in for a maintenance event at a service center. The RAT drop is the last thing we do so that we don’t have to listen to it any longer than necessary 
. It might be a different story on the Hawk with it being up and behind the cockpit.
I should add, the JF Hawk is a masterpiece. Absolutely fantastic!
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I dug up some more info about that pic. It’s from the December 1984 edition of AIR International which has an article about Hawk development and the foreign export developments. The photo has this caption:
And some text from the article itself:
There’s also a cutaway diagram of a Hawk 60 series for export that shows a fair bit of weaponry and also drop tanks.
It also has a bit about the hot new Hawk 200s that will soon be entering service!
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Would you happen to also have a picture of the missing legend numbers? Should be page 292 probably? Numers reach to 196, the legend on the picture just goes up to 141. That would be awsome.
Sure thing:
Full PDF of that issue here: Dropbox - AIR International 1984 12.pdf - Simplify your life
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Great info! I remember seeing the Hawk 200 prototype at a Chivenor air day in the early 90’s while I was stationed there. Aesthetically the T Mk 1A was far prettier I think…
I just dug through my photo albums and I have a couple of pictures…
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