Landing challenge - manipulation?

Someone can manipulate them? Like change FM or environment? Because some of them have 2Mill. points. Are these protected or what?

You can download FM changed planes like G36. That has an impact!?

Playing it like a game, Iā€™m not surprised such high scores are achievable. Put a camera on the belly, alter files, simplify settings, etc. But flying it like a real airplane, looking only from the cockpit, I question the validity of those scores. So they donā€™t really mean anything.

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Shenanigans like that are why Iā€™m not even bothering with the ā€œgameā€ parts of MSFS and just enjoying flying. :small_airplane: :smiley_cat:

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You should create fair conditions for all. No outside view, protected model aircraft etc. Otherwise it doesnā€™t make sense.

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The landing challenges are for fun, itā€™s not an eSports and nobody wins anything other than the joy to beat his/her own highscore.
With all the mods and free-to-edit files there is no way to make it impossible to cheat. But if these poor people want to cheat on such an insignificant ā€œladderā€, just let them.

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People cheat in every single game that has a leaderboard, there are some incredibly sad people out there. Better to just compare to friends (or some group of people you trust) if anything or ignore the leaderboard entirely and ā€“ as others have said, just enjoy flying :slight_smile:

I wouldnā€™t even worry about who is using internal or external view, because no doubt people have changed the FM to practically be VTOL aircraft that float down gently, stripped away all the weather conditions, probably even edited the mission files so they spawn on a lined up direct approach to glide in. Probably even people who have just re-programmed it to give them virtually infinite points while doing nothing. Basically, everything you can think of that is so lame and why would anyone do that, there is bound to be some looser who does it :expressionless:

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Also remember they are aiming for XBOX players, so they need the ā€˜incentiveā€™ of ladders and points and all that ā€˜gamingā€™ stuff. For me, it is a sim and I treat it like thatā€¦

Iā€™ll say it againā€¦ FOR MEā€¦ anyone is free to use it as they seem fit.

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Iā€™m quite the simmer, regardless I just enjoy the challenges as fun intermezzoā€™s. I like to perfect the landing on the interesting approaches, but I couldnā€™t care less about those in the top, however they got there.

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I think this is a way more useful learning or self-challenge tool:

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I have pretty limited experience in flying and have only done 2-3 of the landing challenges, but the lowest score i have gotten is 1.4 million points (1.7ish highest). My 1.4 million landings were not very good, but if i really tried and practiced i think i could get 2 million. You have to remember some people will spend half a day doing the challenge over and over again until they have it nearly perfect. OCD is a hell of a drug.

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Yes, Iā€™m certain there is some ā€œcreativeā€ flying. It would have bothered me before I flew for real but if I can do a challenge and land comfortably and safely I donā€™t care what the score says that much (a big score is nice but not the #1 driver).

So what if we are a little of center line or land a bit earlier or later than the target marker on the runway? That is zero importance compared to a good stable approach, touchdown and safe stopping/exit. Worse though is asking for a 0fpm touchdown, that is just crazy and something many of us are told not to try for when we start learning to fly.

It is a game mode, nothing more and should be viewed as such. It is not a real life flying skills contest.

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What controller do you use?

I dont use a controller. I have an X-55 Hotas with pedals. No assists and all set to hard. The joystick makes it so much easier.

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You can actually change the plane during the challenge, so if somebody uses something like the Shock Ultra itā€™s pretty easy to get an exceptional score.

The landing challenges are a juvenile arcade game for gamers. There is very little ā€˜realā€™ about them. Anyone who has flown for real will tell you that the landing phase is the most difficult to simulate. There are too many interacting and changing forces going on, and a sim has no aircraft or flight control ā€˜feelā€™. And MSFS2020ā€™s flight dynamics are highly simplified for ease of ā€˜playā€™.

Want a real simmerā€™s challenge? Plan and execute a multi-leg supply mission in remote Canada in the Cessna Caravan with poor weather in mountainous terrain. Include a precision and non-precision approach, missed approach, weather divert, marginal VFR, and an aircraft malfunction. And, like you would in reality, do it all from the cockpit view.

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Can you make a good score or not? Itā€™s probably the reasonā€¦

Hi Kronzky

I use this game just for fun. Not for high score. At the moment i only wanna fly the olf Cessna 152.
So i wanna do the Landing Challenges only with that plane.

Can you tell me how i can do this. I dont get my plane to change on a landing challenge.

Thank you for your help
Knirps

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I totally agree with no outside view. Iā€™ve also experienced differences in weather conditions and such, which if weā€™re talking scoreboards itā€™s not really a fair playing field. Sometimes doing Lukla Iā€™ve iced up so bad and de-icing seems to have no affect. Other times itā€™s clear as day. Saba has also given me some mixed weather like foggy weather and such.

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I played the Jackson landing challenge sooooo many times I got an average of 300000 at first but after a week I made it to 1.48M points I used external fixed rear view bit I did manage to land a 1.2M from the cockpit ā€¦I also got to easily feel when 500 would be called out ā€¦ So itā€™s possible best I got was 601st spot and then that became 759th eventuallyā€¦ Had we had it for another week I think I could have got up to 1.7 or 1.8 M points ā€¦I think itā€™s added fun

Oh I just realized we donā€™t lose these ā€¦they move to the landing challenges area instead of features ā€¦lots to learn in this sim yetā€¦ glad I got it Iā€™ve been simming for 25 years

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