Brief description of the issue: When coming in on approach flying an IFR flight plan, ATC is very late with giving clearance to which approach to fly. It sometimes is given when you have already begun the approach according to the flightplan, so you have to turn around and often climb… Also landing clearance is very late. In FSX and P3D approach clearance was given further out during descent making it possible to plan and prepare for example the FMC.
Detail steps to reproduce the issue encountered: Try for example to fly IFR between Arlanda ESSA and Visby ESSV.
Build Version # when you first started experiencing this issue: Seems to be more frequent with latest version 1.17.3.0
Are you on the Steam or Microsoft Store version? Microsoft Store
Did you submit this to Zendesk? If so, what is your ticket #? 109769
It’s always been like that. My workaround is to assign the approach into the IFR flight plan from the beginning. And the ATC will you use that.
Thanks! I always have the approach in the flightplan, but still get this problem. Not every time, but often. I use Simbrief flightplans, maybe that could have something to do with it?
This is an ongoing problem with ATC in flights simulator. It’s been brought up several times before. The issue is the approach clearance needs to be assigned by approach and not the tower.
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There is a difference in the “identical” flight plans generated by SimBrief, Navigraph, LNM, and MSFS World Map. The flight plans generated by the World Map have altitude crossing restrictions that ATC uses. The other flight plans do not although the information is contained in additional info not generated into the flight plan. The altitude crossing restrictions are not added by the World Map to imported flight plans.
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This has long been a complaint of mine. I always use assisted landing and as far as I can tell you don’t even get the approach pattern until you’re just 10 miles out from the strip. There is no way to change this in any of the settings (AFAIK). This is always too late and, as you point out, involves some clunky reorientation just to get in line for the approach ‘cage’. It’s ridiculous - and even more ridiculous that this is actually still a real issue in MSFS.
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I had use SimBrief flight plan before, but I’m having trouble creating a Gate-to-Gate flight plan since Simbrief can’t do that. So I always do a hybrid approach. I create a SimBrief Flight plan for my logging tool like Volanta and Navigraph purposes, but I create a new flight plan on the world map with Departing Gate to Arriving Gate. Then I pick the Departure Pattern and Arrival Pattern based on the SimBrief SIDs and STARs. But keep the Approach automatic. This is because selecting the approach will reset the arriving gate so I keep this until later.
I am using Navigraph Navdata Center to update all the NavData in the sim to use the Navigraph data. So generally the navaids and approaches are correct.
Once I start the flight. I ask for Clearance, then I assign the Approach right there. And just fly it. I think the default ATC tends to work better with default World Map Flight Planning.
I stumbled upon the ability to assign an arrival gate. I tried it a couple of times and was pleased that ATC Ground instructed me to my requested gate. I think the problem of “flight plan reset” is supposed to be fixed. The flight plan probably could be edited with Notepad to insert both the approach and arrival gate.
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