Live traffic take off

In one year with fs2020 I’m never see a aircraft took off at sny airport, why?

4 Likes

It’s broken. We’re all hoping it’s fixed in SU8 next month.

7 Likes

Topic moved into #community:general-discussion-feedback

The #sdk-discussion category is for assistance with the Software Development Kit.

AIG has been a game changer for this (amongst many other things). If it turns out not to be fixed in SU8 you may want to look into it.

2 Likes

Hmm, You are right. I’ve seen plenty of landings.

Simple Traffic from Aerosoft also enables working departures using Offline AI traffic, so it’s a simpler and faster to install alternative to AIG.

2 Likes

Live traffic is just broken, not just take off but I often find busy international airports really quite on the ground as well, no aircraft taxing and hardly any at the gates, only time I see an aircraft taxi is on the rare occasion one lands.
It just seems really hit and miss.

Even the world map is empty of live traffic, no green dots anywhere, I seem to have to wait on the map for a while for a few green dots to appear.

I’m sure its got worse with the last couple of updates.

1 Like

Deffinetly easier to use / more user friendly, but my own opinion is it is very basic / generic. Not much variety for liveries and models.

If you just want to see planes take off and land and have some airliner logos then it’s a great solution. If you want real world routes, models and liveries and have some patience to work with AIG. It’s far superior.

Hopefully resolved one day, but AIG traffic doesn’t show up on radar.

Again, just my own opinion from experience with the two.

1 Like

But both are currently not available for Xbox. So we have to deal with it for the moment on Xbox. Fingers crossed for a soon release for Simple Traffic release (Xbox) or a fix in SU8.

3 Likes

I have both and tried them individually. And I concur. Simple Traffic is super easy. It’s far more deserving of the “One Click Installer” moniker than AIG’s solution, which requires about 48 different steps, 2 different applications to be installed, a couple of hours of installation time, and THEN multiple hours of downloading flight schedules, models, liveries, etc. But once you have it working, it’s really quite remarkable how good it is.

Simple Traffic

Pros -

  • Easy 1 click install - no messing around. Literally you run the installer and it works.
  • cheap
  • easy on system performance as it uses the Microsobo generic plane models
  • decent, but not perfect livery matching when using it with Live Traffic. Still better than default liveries
  • You get GA traffic
  • Traffic taxis and takes off when using Offline AI

Cons -

  • uses Microsobo generic plane models which can be rather ugly
  • limited selection of liveries compared to AIG
  • When using Offline AI, traffic doesn’t show up on CAS (Sim limitation)

AIG

Pros -

  • Uses higher detail models that look way better than the Microsobo default
  • Ridiculously good coverage of airframes and liveries for airlines around the world
  • Excellent livery matching when used with their Traffic Controller
  • Free (if you consider your mental health to have no value)
  • Traffic will taxi and depart when using Traffic Controller

Cons-

  • Painfully complex and lengthy installation procedure. You must get every step just right in the right order or it won’t work. Even more Rube Goldberg-esque than the MS Store version of MSFS.
  • Requires logins to both the AVSim and AIG forums to install. AIG forum requires users to be validated by an admin, so you may not be able to install it when you want and have to wait up to a day for your account to be accepted before you can proceed with installation.
  • Higher detail plane models and liveries can affect performance on lower end systems.
  • Model / livery matching with Live Traffic about the same as with Simple Traffic. It’s hit or miss, but better than default and offers better model variety than Simple Traffic.
  • If using only AIG TC, you will see no GA traffic at all. Only airliners.
  • Many folks (myself included) can’t get AIG injected planes to show up with CAS on G1000 MFD / GNS map.
  • No GA traffic unless you use the Traffic Controller in concert with the sim’s live or AI traffic.

So basically, AIG is the winner here for best traffic as long as you’re willing to put up with the painful installation process, slow loading applications, and don’t rely on planes showing up on your MFD. There’s really little competition when it comes to the quality of traffic here. AIG is the winner.

I still think for most users though, Simple Traffic is the way to go.

6 Likes

ST has real-world, historical, pre-Pandemic flight plans for Offline AI Traffic.

2 Likes

Is there news that Simple traffic is actually coming to xbox or just hope that it could?

Please check the Aerosoft Forums. They are waiting on Marketplace team to clear their XBox version and put it on the sim for purchase.

3 Likes

“soon” is the word from CasualClick and Mathias

image

1 Like

It’s best to read that thread entirely - Mathijs’ official comments are below mine.

2 Likes

Oh cool, it feels like everything is ‘soon’, lol. I’m sure this year will see some good editions to marketplace for Xbox and PC though hopefully.

With the PC version, outside of some scenery mods, it took over 6 months after launch before really good stuff started appearing in the marketplace. So the fact that Xbox has about 80% of the PC add-ons available now after 6 months is actually not bad. I’m sure the next few months will see a lot more additions to the marketplace for Xbox as 3rd party devs work around the quirks associated with Xbox.

3 Likes

So just to be clear is this simple traffic add on better in Ai offline traffic mode using the real world routes pre pandemic.

Sounds like that’s where it shines the most?

ST is best in Offline mode for its traffic and schedules. The down side is that offline AI isn’t seen in your MFDs. So you gain a lot of great traffic, but lose situational awareness. And that’s a limitation of the sim, not of Simple Traffic itself.

1 Like

All the problems i ve with the FS2020 on xbox. ( traffic ai , helicopters ,… )The team is working on it.

Thanks for all the works they put to provide PC game for xbox user Who don t have the money to put in a Gaming PC to run this incredible game.

1 Like