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Brief description of the issue:
Whenever you fly there is no logical function how flight gets logged. If you not use the ATC then mostly the flight will only logged with the time. No start or landing is counted. But not always sometimes a few starts or landings will be logged. But nobody will understand the logic behind!
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Fly a few pattern with touch and go’s and without ATC on a uncontrolled airport. You will be astonished what will get logged 
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Since the very beginng! Never corrected!
Touch, and go’s won’t cause a landing to be logged if you don’t slow down below 40kts. And because you don’t taxi off the runway, announce you are clear, then taxi back on to it it won’t log a takeoff either.
I just finished an entire flight and got no takeoff or landing logged, so that’s cool!
That’s not correct. Sometimes I got all my starts and landings counted. But there seems no regularity in it. Sometimes it only counts the starts, sometimes a few of the landings. But always the time. Nobody knows how that works concrete. And in real live every touch and go count as a landing…
It is correct, you just aren’t following the “Objectives” window, and aren’t doing what the sim expects you to do. If you do that, it will log as I have demonstrated many times in other related threads. It’s a pain its not as obvious as it should be, but there is a methodology behind it.
The methodology is not consequent. 1st. the log of landings and starts will not work when you not use the ATC from MSFS. That’s unusable for VATSIM or if you use Pilot2atc, which is a lot better then the ATC from the simulator. But then sometimes it’s registrating all landings and starts without ATC. I could not comprehend the regulary till now. My last flight was one with 5 touch and goes and i was reducing the speed to under 40. Nothing was registrated. only my flight time. Honestly - this kind of logbook is useless. See:
And the columns are also not correct…
And sorry to say: But what’s the problem to registrate that you are airborne or land your airplane for the simulator…?
On this at least we can agree. You could use both, but if the in game one gives you a different runway, for example, and you follow the external ATC directions, it won’t trigger the Objectives stages correctly, leading to a takeoff not getting logged, if they don’t match. If they did match, it woul work as the in-game one doesn’t care which route you take when you hold short, only that you get to that spot. You could follow the external ATC taxiway route to the same runway.
It would be easie if they came up with a more basic method for determining a take off, such as wheels leaving the ground.
But it should, that’s what a touch-and-go is.
On an uncontrolled Airport llike LOAV there is no advice from the ATC which runway should be used. You only use the runway that is in use because of the wind direction. So in the ATC you only have to announce your takeoff (without the runwaynumber) and still the log will work sometimes and sometimes not. So your theory is not working. I can not recognize what is the exact reason for logging or not.
Agreed. I’m telling you what is, not what it should be.
The only issue I’ve ever ran into with flight logs not saving is if I was flying in dev mode. Otherwise, I would normally start at a gate at any given airport and end at a gate. Logs were always saved. Whether or not you use in game atc won’t affect flight logs being saved.
So try VFR flight on a uncontrolled Airport without the MSFS ATC! You will be surprised
Since I never use ATC, because it is useless, I never get my takeoff logged. However, I always get a landing and the time logged. So my logbook has 0 takeoffs, but 100+ landings.
As @hobanagerik pointed out, it would be ideal if the sim didn’t use “objectives” that are not visible to the user and determined a takeoff when the wheels leave the runway.
Bill
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