Loss of Internet causes Bing Data set to OFF in Options

If you temporarily lose your Internet connection, a pop-up Warning appears telling you have been set to OFFLINE mode. You click on OK to dismiss. Note that the setting in the DATA section in General Settings PERMANENTLY changes the Bing Data to OFF and grays out Photogrammetry.
I don’t think restarting the Sim will reset Data back on. It will stay off until you manually turn Data back on in Options.

… and in which statement in the UserCfg.opt do you see that?

It’s in the Ootions screen under General, Data. Not sure which file stores Options.

… you edited the post … ok forget my question; The property of the sim is that you cannot activate BING DATA WORLD GRPAHICS + linked PHOTOGRAMMETRY without Internet. When you have unstable Internet, you may want to activate ROLLING CACHE SETTINGS to ON including MANUAL CACHE. Select VIEW to activate what you need.
Settings of the sim are stored in your gamertag profile in the Steam or MS Store client.

Yes, quite annoying. Previously it was only popping up a message and another when reconnected. It didn’t switch data settings off.

Exactly. If you lose Internet, your tested and true “configured” Data Settings should not be reset to OFF in the config files. Config files should not be used for “transient” status conditions that can change within a session, such as connectivity.

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The setting may have been in the .CFG file, I’m not sure

Yes, I understand the sim cannot function without Internet. But that is a TEMPORARY condition… not a change in how I want the Sim to behave next time I start up. That’s what a “config” file, (alias Options) implies. I would still want to be Data connected in future sessions. The way it is now, I would not even know the setting was off, nor should I expect something in the program to negate or in my mind, corrupt, my desired configuration. Can you see the blatant bad design of that?

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You missed my point entirely. The config file is NOT the place to handle a temporary condition. I should NOT have to check on it because I never wanted to disable the Data Bing Setting… the program wrongly assumed, and did, that.

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Totally agree. Over in the 200% render thread for VR we see the same thing - the sim decides to make changes to the UserCfg.opt file without permission or even informing us it is doing so.

The file is UserCfg.opt. It’s not WeDoWhatWeWantRegardlessWhatYouWantCfg.opt.

Thanks for the support. Let’s hope the developers behind this understand the difficulties it causes for users.

People have found if you make it read-only you can stop fs2020 from changing settings out from under you. But it also adds two steps to making any changes you do want to make.

I know what you mean. For FSX and P3D, I made a preserved copy of the various config files, and saved the names as “(whatever).MSTcfg” , then at startup ran a .BAT file to copy the preserved .MST file back to replace the official .cfg file.
I did this for years just to make sure my LOD settings were saved.

However, with this new product in development, I’m giving it some time to stabilize (ha ha) before having to resort to such methods again.

I’m rather a purist who believes that developers have theirs “locked” file directories for their system stuff, rightfully so. But users should have their own areas of protected space as well. The Community folder is a start in the right direction, but I also include any user config files in that same vein, even though they locate the files in a dubious ground, somewhere between the two, found under the LocalState directory…

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UserCfg only stores graphic settings

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Mostly correct. It also stores where the program files are located. But yeah, I don’t see Bing data in there. MS/Asobo still honor their settings and not ours, though.

Thank you. Solved the problem for me…not having the correct scenery after internet outage.
Bing was off as you stated. Turned it on and BINGO back in business.
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Thank you, yes, that does bring the data back. However, the real problem was that the Bing Data was turned off in the options in the first place. I did not change that option.

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