i’ll tell you what i need
i need either dx11 in 2024 or the clouds from 2024 in 2020
with either one of those… i’m good
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I’m on Game pass till January. After that I don’t plan on buying 2024 anytime soon. It’s actually offered to game pass subscribers at $62 and I still won’t buy it. 2020 still rocks!
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It seems every time I sit down to use 2024, I experience something inconsistent.
Today’s fun is my Tobii not working correctly. Because of a bug with vJoy, I have to manually select my custom Tobii profile every time I load into an aircraft.
This has worked fine until today. Now, when I select the profile, the camera suddenly swings nearly 180° and down. Then, if I wait, the camera very slowly starts to rotate clockwise until it reaches about a 45° angle looking out the forward and left side cockpit windows. It doesn’t respond to any head movement whatsoever.
If I switch it back to the default “Tobii” profile, then I get the default eye-tracking only experience. This tells me the issue isn’t with the Tobii device – it is working.
I hunted down the XML file containing my custom Tobii axis settings and they are still how I had them set when I made the file when this workaround was discovered. Therefore, the file isn’t at fault.
I just wanted to fly today. I finally had to some time to myself and here we go again.
This blows. I’m sick of this. I am sick of chasing my tail with this thing.
EDIT:
Bizarro. I duplicated the “Tobii” profile and gave it a custom name, set to all aircraft and default, quit the sim, located the XML file, edited its values to match my original custom profile, relaunched the sim and set Tobii to the new custom profile and it works as it should do.
I have no idea why the original custom one isn’t working, as the values all look correct for the axis. It has been working just fine until the launch of the sim this morning. Same PC, no changes to anything, just 22 Dec is all that is different.
Man, we are in for a long, rough ride with this sim.
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Yes, 2020 is great, but recently it has been losing internet connection, having problems with Azure, and lags.
Imagine losing cursor mode in Msfs 2024. When using Xbox Series X in a complete vanilla state, without any accessory or addon. And then when I tried to use a mouse the feelook camera is unusable. They can’t get it right even on Microsoft’s flagship hardware.
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Good one .
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If you’re asking about the meaning of the symbols, the H is a helipad, the blue drop is a point of interest and the green circle I guess to be an airfield.
I’ve had enough. I feel like they are just dumping garbage on us. Imagine if any other product or service had this many errors in it? 4 years and they still can’t write software.
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I called a spade a spade in one of the threads discussing rain drops that are not visible on aircraft windshields which worked fine on 2020. I called the sim/game broken - and yes it is broken in many ways. The post got flagged as inappropriate and got hidden and i got a warning as usual. I 100% agree with you. I too have had enough of this mess of a sim…no sorry …game.
When you speak up - you get silenced, yet they offer no refunds to those that are unsatisfied.
Profits above all else - that’s the name of the game these days - no pun intended.
I digress.
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I don’t need one of those two, because i am happy with MSFS2020 until Asobo have baked their bread!
It will will probably take a year or maybe two before it is slightly better and as stable as the 2020 version.
Until that time i enjoy flying with the 2020 version and do some Beta testing with the 2024 version. 
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I get great performance on my rig, and the visuals are fine. I only fly IFR in the biz jets. Flight planner works well enough. That in the in-sim ATC is actually so much worse than 2020 is just astounding to me. Its one of the oldest complaints from 2020, with promised yet unfulfilled fixes, but at least in IFR it was somewhat usable and realistic. For 2024 its neither.
Completed flights ok, Simbreif good, no problems
These stratus clouds are real, a bit rare but real, but I agree is not so sexy as classic cumulus clouds in 2024
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And this is the big question, isn’t it?
If everyone reverts to 2020 or don’t transfer from it Me for one) then is there any future for MSFS2024 or is it cooked already?
Is there any way this state of affairs can be recovered - and if there is, how would/should it look?
I think it’s an important question for the community to think about if we want the flight simulator to continue to be sustainable, which I’m sure we all do…
Ill try the Max and see what happens.
Define ‘cooked’. They’re not gonna go “Hm ok, well, let’s forget about the whole thing then”. FS2024 is the new thing, and in a few years time it will be the only thing. 2020’s days are numbered, despite still having a good few years ahead of it, if they keep their promise.
It’s actually really simple. “All” they need to do is:
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I bet they have an internal bug list as long as my arm. Fix all of them. I imagine all my following points are somewhere on that list.
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Fix/finish all the default planes. Most of them are just barely functional. Almost all of them have annoying bugs or things that don’t work right. Given that this is supposed to be a flight sim, I find that a tragedy.
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Make the career mode work better. Iron out all the problems that are inherent to generating these things dynamically. Correct all the issues and irritations re: scoring and pilot performance. Better match its logic, with regards to flight planning, airport selection, ATC instructions, and pilot performance to the actual plane you’re flying.
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Improve (finally!) the ATC and traffic AI (air/sea, airport vehicles). Absolute clown show at the moment, and hugely immersion breaking.
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Related: find another AI voice service. They said it was gonna be muuuch better this time round. It’s really not, even my car’s satnav sounds more natural.
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If they insist on releasing it on XBox, then at least make sure it runs well (!) on XBox.
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Related to that: if they make it run well on XBox, then make doubly sure it runs even better on PCs that exceed XBox hardware specifications.
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Furthermore, my PC more than matches their original ‘Recommended’ system spec. It doesn’t feel like it. By all accounts, visuals and performance on an actual high-end top of the line PC (far better than mine) still seem to be underwhelming and don’t live up to expectations. Optimise the game further! Specifically VRAM usage, in my case, as well as LOD levels.
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The new EFB is great. Unfortunately, it has a lot of issues around flight plan syncing, as well as fuel and payload setting.
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Fulfill the promise that all our addons will work. I’ve got a small fortune invested in them, and I trusted them when they said it would ‘all just work’. I think we know by now that’s not the case at all.
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The streaming stuff. I’m on board with it. But it does need to work better. It doesn’t feel reliable.
I’ve said nothing new here. But you asked Once they get these things sorted out, it will be a fine sim, and a worthy successor to 2020. Imo, of course
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A-10: fuel consumption: 31l (ca 8 gal) for 1 hour… rly?? And blinking textures…
I’m not super down with ‘Asobo bashing’. These are just people, trying to do the best job they can, under quite a lot of pressure and close scrutiny.
Nobody sets out to do bad job, nor are they “lazy” or “dumb” or “incompetent”, as I often read here.
Anyone that says or thinks that, doesn’t have a clue and whatever else they have to say is immediately invalidated, and not to be taken seriously.
Imagine if you make a mistake in your job, and 5 million randos on the internet fall over themselves to call you a fool and a nitwit …
But that’s just my opinion, of course.
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But how do you know this? Are you acquainted with all of Asobo’s employees? I mean, the proof is in the pudding. The product that they handed to MS to release was in a bad state. So, they are incompetent, unmotivated or unprepared for such a task…how else can you explain the state it is in?
We were told that this 2024 game was all this & that and had new, better code than 2020 game. We forgave a lot of the bad from 2020, and were slapped again in the face by Asobo. Not again.
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