When do we get to see the proof of all your assertions about what can and cant be done in this sim? 422 posts into a thread where you’re decrying the physics of msfs when compared to xplane, talking about what cant be done in this sim, 4 videos made in xplane to supposedly support an argument about msfs physics, and you can’t seem to post a single video from msfs showing what happens instead of what you think should happen? Then you go and call @PZL104, whose word I guarantee everyone on this forum would take 1000000 times before yours, childish for disagreeing, without proof, with a statement you made without proof.
I don’t think I’ve read a more perfect example of pot calling the kettle black than this thread in a long time.
That’s literally what many of the people you are arguing with do for a living, and it’s blatantly obvious to anyone who’s spent time around high time pilots to know who those members are.
Make a video of what happens in msfs when you try to do what you did in xplane. Then, if they are drastically different, present an argument of why what we see in MSFS is wrong and what we see in xplane is right.
Your most recent accusation seems to revolve around a specific technique not working in MSFS. It should be exceptionally easy for you to post a video of you attempting, and failing, to land using that technique. Since we have numerous professional pilots, software developers, and engineers in this thread, we should be able to quickly conclude that:
MSFS doesn’t allow for this technique as you assert
or
MSFS does allow for this technique and you are simply attempting it incorrectly
You made the accusation. You provide the evidence to support it.
I’m really not sure why you wouldn’t want to provide a video for us to learn from and expand our minds with. It’s a fantastic way to take your understanding of aviation and put it into practice, instead of using just words, that is not scientific. Just to show that you are not sharing your attempts here but simply typing words is only proving that you know you are not capable in showing your seriousness in aviation or for that matter FS2020.
Dear Aromatic, I asked a very simple question, when trying to reason out by deducting the conditions, doesn’t mean that I am wrong, If I start proving, I am quite sure you will realize that Someone is playing the fool with you and with everyone else… But it will not take long to prove it, it requires only enthusiasm and a determined mind. And the belief that nothing is impossible.
I have already provided number of examples… But it seems that you have to use FS2020 for another 4-9 months before you realize it if you are capable of performing the professional carb approach demonstrated in the video… If you think I am wrong, request a Boeing 737,747,787 or Airbus 320,330,340,380 to watch the video and examine your performance in FS2020… Let us see how great you feel when you perform that kind of landings… I will personally salute you.
And it is very simple, instead of arguing with me by words… Make a Video instead of typing.
Well, that is not a problem… It is easy you have an autopilot to deal with the wind at high altitude.
You need to land the plane with 30 knots cross wind… like in my video.
I’ve not said you’re wrong. I’ve said you’ve provided nothing to support the accusations youve made, because you havent.
Great! Start proving. I can’t imagine that @PZL104 and @anon50268670 wouldn’t be open to being proven wrong.
You’re right, based on your xplane videos it will take you approximately 5 minutes of flying to prove your assertion is correct.
Again, that burden is on you because you made the accusation. You are the one who gets to prove your statement.
By the logic you’re using, you would be guilty of any crime that occurred while you were asleep unless you have a camera staring at your bed 24/7. You can’t prove you didn’t commit the crime so you must be guilty of whatever someone accuses you.
You do understand that you are talking to people who are doing this for a living (10+ years in my case, and in case of @PZL104 a lot longer)? Nobody has to present proof concerning their ability to perform crosswind landings. The discussion has been about X-plane versus MSFS2020 flight model, not about people their flying skills.
Last thing and then I’m done, I think you are mixing up crosswind techniques, first you say the wing low / side-slip method (which you are demonstrating yourself over and over) is unprofessional and easy, while it actually is the hardest technique to accomplish since it requires a lot of coordination. Perhaps you are confused with the term side-slip? Side-slip does not mean you are slipping, skidding, drifting over the runway…
You then claim landing without de-crabbing is unprofessional and high maintenance. What you fail to understand is that it is not a free choice what technique to use. In heavy crosswind you simply can’t use the wing-low technique as you would bury the wingtip or engine nacelle into the ground depending on the aircraft type, so you might need to kick the aircraft straight right before touchdown while keeping wings level or use a combination of techniques.
You might be right concerning the MSFS2020 flight model, I haven’t really tested heavy crosswinds in FS2020 so far. Problem is that you continue arguing with everybody that X-plane is realistic, which we concluded is not the case. You then make up fake credentials, claiming you are a Boeing 737 pilot while your level of knowledge suggests otherwise. You then keep arguing about crosswind landings and why your technique is the right technique, everybody commenting on that has to present proof he / she can do a better job, the topic is about the flight model and not people their flying skills? It completely ruins an otherwise interesting discussion.
Flying for living? Meaning Airline pilots? on the Forum… Well besides me, that has shown outstanding performance in crosswinds, I don’t see any Airline pilot putting his skills in action, while flying only 4-10 knots head wind junior flights. I have over 400 hours on a 737-900… Real Airplane with real crosswinds… Not Repeating “you are wrong…” again and again… Just provide the video.
What we really need your help to bring your arguments better is that you say you have already tried it. But we haven’t seen a video of your trying it. Show us a recording on how you set up your wind layer, the crosswind setup, the gust setup. Show us a video of all that. And let us watch you do your heavy crosswind landing.
Then you bring up detailed analysis about what you think doesn’t work. And let us have a much more constructive discussion on the matter. At this moment, all we hear is that you tried it in MSFS, but you only show us a video in X-Plane and it’s just your word saying that MSFS doesn’t behave like X-Plane does. But we need a recording that would support your argument. Otherwise, this is a pointless discussion. And that’s why no one would be paying real attention to it.
Well, Why do you think I will fly the X-Plane and not try it on the FS2020?
If I would succeed don’t you think I would already make a video and be proud of the performance?
Any chance of you showing us a video of your own making, and not using someone’s else’s video?
Actually, if you do perhaps you could make it in MSFS, as well as or instead of XP. You said yourself you’ve not had much luck in that regard, so your video would enable those here to give you some pointers on where you might be going wrong.
You’re being trolled. I’d be shocked if he even has a copy of msfs. Actually, thats not true. He posted a video of the 787 so there exists a copy. I stand by my trolling position.
