Hey guys,
As promised yesterday, here is additional info and of course pictures of the new MOZA flight sim hardware:
- AB9 Base
- MH16 Joystick
- MRP Rudder Pedals
- MTP Throttle Panel
- MTLP Take Off and Landing Panel
German blog post: MOZA Flight Simulation Gear – FFB AB9 Base, MH16 Joystick, MTP Throttle Panel und MRP Rudder Pedals vorgestellt – Simracing-PC
English translation: MOZA Flight Simulation Gear – FFB AB9 Base, MH16 Joystick, MTP Throttle Panel and MRP Rudder Pedals revealed – Simracing-PC
If you have any questions I might be able to answer them. I have not yet been able to try the hardware myself though.
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They look great. Proprietary force feedback may not be an issue, but is it impossible just to do it with DX12 natively? Only if the sim supports it fully as well, I guess.
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Looks good. But no yoke is no joke 
I might be in for the pedals though (if it has independent toe brakes). Any idea on pricing yet?
Would be interested to know exactly what “sticks” are compatible. It says all 3rd parties, but I’m dubious. How would the buttons all be able to “talk” through this same base? They all have such different number of buttons / hats etc.
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There are two options afaik: Telemetry FFB and direct input.
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Blu Games has a video on the base and separate video on the rest. I haven’t watched it all yet.
The website is updated with some info:
Compared to military sim hardware there are far too few affordable GA products.
Especially with the demise of Fulcrum and Honeycomb there’s basically only the Turtle Beach Velocity One series left, and that one’s definitely not in the same class (apart from the pedals: they are excellent).
I don’t even count Logitech and CH anymore because the stuff is some 25 years old and simply doesn’t cut it anymore. So you can either take the Turtle Beach or invest 1000,- or more for a Yoko or something similar.
When it comes to throttle quadrants or Vernier throttles the situation is even worse and you can start at around 650,-€ for a VirtualFly TQ3+ of around 800,- for the TQ6+ And they aren’t even remotely as adaptable as the Honeycomb.
Then there’s trim wheels: apart from a few cheap 3D-printed offerings there’s almost nothing available unless you pay four figures.
And when it comes to GA flight sticks you can use with the left hand (like in basically every European GA or UL aircraft) there’s NOTHING available at all unless you buy a Virpil with a left-handed fighter jet grip which doesn’t feel right. And while the Velocity One stick can be used with both hands, it can only be used as a side-stick and not as a classic flight stick.
So honestly another HOTAS set (even with FFB and looking really nice) doesn’t really hold any interest for me. Give me a GA flight grip to mount on that new FFB base and you’re probably make a lot of friends here (as long as the price is right of course)
If you can also develop an affordable trim wheel and a good GA throttle quadrant with exchangable handles you will probably be golden here in this forum 
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Totally agree, the GA options are very limited. The Honeycomb Bravo I have is excellent and I use it for so much. Thankful for that. You mention Virpil, so you know your business.
I didn’t see the VKB’s modular GA kits mentioned though. Including left-handed NXT stick:
VKB is well built and you can start small and grow. Granted, they don’t “look” like they just came out of a plane but close enough for most people, I think.
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I had the same thought, but Moza website said they will have an open eco system and will sell adapters for 3rd party sticks. I know VPforce sells an adapter for their force feedback unit. it will just be a question is when they will offer it, I hope at release.
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They are typically very fast with their release, I would not worry about long waiting times.
Yes, It would be cool if they have an adapter for the VKB MCG Ultimate stick I have. I hear you just need the connector to the VKB black box for the buttons and a way to mount. But I wasn’t holding my breath, be a nice surprise though. I also have a Thrustmaster Warthog stick collecting dust. I can use, if the VKB option doesn’t work out. Either way, I’ll wait for reviews, got too many other things going on to be an early adopter these days.
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Thanks for mentioning VKB. It is something I cannot really relate to personally because of their looks, but they sure deserve being mentioned
Pretty sure i’m going to need a bigger table mount for this mammoth… or just a stick extender and mount it on the floor… hmmmm.. but i like this beast.
Moza jumping into the FFB flight market should also be a wakeup call to other manufacturers… (yeah, looking at your lazy attitude towards innovative flightgear over the years, L-tech! Sorry! Nowadays you just seem to sell the stock of old peripherals from others… i’m still using the G940 for flying, but it’s dyin..lost the pedals already, the throttle is starting to go, but the joystick is still good to go…-ish)
I’ve been looking at the VKB and Virpil stuff and the moza is definately a Major contender for emptying my wallet! I love true forcefeedback stuff, as long as it’s natively supported by the sim.(come on FS24!!!)
There’s just nothing like feeling your actual wings lose lift and you correcting for it to stay on the ragged edge of falling out of the virtual skies. It just helps an awful lot in understanding what’s happening on the screen before it actually happens on the screen as you feel it happening through your hands first as a forewarning. FFB is just amazing if done right.
Welcome to flightsims, Moza! Thank you for entering our realm.
Woof ~ Woof & Salute!
Steiny
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Hey guys, the pre order for the first part of the MOZA Flight Sim hardware will start today. Shipping is expected to start 31 July. You can check the prices on my news article, the MOZA website should be updated very soon as well.
MOZA Flight Sim Gear pre-order - AB9 Base, MH16 Flightstick and Z-Axis Module: MOZA Flight Sim Gear pre-order – AB9 Base, MH16 Flightstick and Z-Axis Module – Simracing-PC
Update: Pre order is live now!
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I had hoped they would offer the stick in a leftie version as well. Will it accept different sticks?
I have a lot of questions… 
Is there actually any info on the software that works within MSFS? All the pages are just about the hardware and components, but the SOFTWARE is the most important thing. Is there an example of the User Interface for this? Is it planned to enhance it or improve it over time?
I heard from someone that tried it at the Expo that the effects were really artificial feeling in what they tried.
Would it work with XP Force? Or any other Driver software?
What kind of control do we get in MSFS? What can be tweaked? What effects are transmitted and how “natural” are they?
Can it be configured easily Per Aircraft and it automatically loads the correct profile for the aircraft you load up?
How would it work with Helicopters? Can you reduce the centering and have it stay where it’s put?
What happens if you let go of the stick usually? Does force continue to be put into it and the thing will flail about, potentially damaging it?
Does it clamp on to the majority of the “desk clamp” type systems or would they not be strong enough? Is there any official desk clamp with adjustable height?
Also, probably second most importantly, is there a list of compatible ‘sticks’ and ‘grips’ that will work flawlessly with it? I would rather a more ‘commercial’ or helicopter focussed grip than an F-16 replica.
You can download the MOZA Pit House to check the look and feel of their software. It’s very similar.
You can find answers to some of your questions on their website as well.
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They have an image of a desk clamp, and different ways of using it, but didn’t seem to state whether the base comes with it. I assume it does as there doesn’t seem to be a separate product you can purchase.
For other FFB sticks that I saw being demoed at FSExpo they showed the user pushing the stick to a position, and the stick stayed there.
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