MS/Asobo - How Did This Happen? Free Flight is Awful

outside of the US it’s used for sure

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Perhaps you are blue in the face because you don’t understand the differences. MSFS 2024 streams more data than 2020 period.

The simple facts.
The 2024 local footprint is smaller so the rest is streamed.
The world detail in 2024 has increased meaning more world data which is streamed.
Internet requirements have increased for 2024.

They are not the same and suggesting otherwise is not understanding the differences.

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“Tree” was literally used several times by ATC and other pilots in this video from a few days ago. Not super consistent, but it’s there.

I was taught it, don’t use it personally, but have heard it quite a bit.

Try this,no toggle for the ATC window,on a recent VFR flight the dimmo co-pilot asked for IFR and then I had two sets of instructions going back and forth so I turned ATC off.when I landed,I got called out for an unauthorised landing.To add insult to injury ATC window malfunctions so that options for a request to land don’t appear,no wonder content creators rarely use it.A total mess…

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If this helps, I read somewhere that people on Xbox (dunno about PC) are setting large rolling cache sizes, like 32GB and above to have the data of the region they are flying in downloaded onto their system. Isn’t that a practical fix for now?

I have almost always kept RC on while playing 2020 on my Series X and it has always made the visuals look sharper and load faster despite being on a non-shared 100 meg fiber connection.

I think as users we are still learning, but I think the days of turning the rolling cache off completely are over.

If the cache is well implemented then given all of the streaming assets it really should be a case of the bigger the better. If it doesn’t scale well then that could be different.

I set mine to 128GB and seems to be working fine so far.

is anyone else having a problem with the auto pilot or flight plan following whereby the ATC does not tell you to descend in time and you completely miss the airport or fly off course at a ridiculous altitude. I( just had a flight in the 737 max whereby it told me to descend to 5000ft and the plane started decending then immediately the ATC conversation says "requests destination change to Destination airport (which you are going to anyway) and then you imediately start climbing again to your cruise altitude regardless of the fact im approaching the airport. How can i fix this problem?

Are you saying that the aircraft’s flight behavior was directly linked to the messages received via ATC?

In other words, you are just a passenger?

Normally, when ATC gives you a command, the aircraft doesn’t do anything until you, the pilot, tell it to.

Is that not what is happening here?

It’s your job to calculate top of descent, not ATC. Most planes have this functionality built into avionics. You request lower altitude from ATC and start descending. Sometimes they will ask you to descend earlier than your calculated TOD, it usually happens when they want you to land at different runway that you have in your flight plan.

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Today is the first day I’ve had a successful flight, thanks to the amazing Fenix A321. What a machine.

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I will tell you something funny- I have a pair of 3M ear protector muffs with FM radio. When you change frequencies a synthetic voice tells you what your new one is. I thought that “ninety tree point tree” was a fault. Surprise to me! Man, I learn stuff here.

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today i was “happy” to see that ATC still does that thing where you’ve nearly reached the platform height for the ILS and are under heavy workload stabilizing and preparing for final, and they suddenly tell you to climb back to cruising altitude. there’s nothing i like to hear more than “please expedite your climb to 19,000 ft” when i’m six miles from touchdown. love it.

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i mean sure, they use “tree” in Europe (sometimes, although I’ve rarely heard Vatsim controllers use it, many of whom are actual real-world ATC trainees or professionals), but then most of the game (despite the fact that the developer is French) is heavily locked in to a default US-centric mileu (pounds, inches of mercury, etc are all the default every time you load a new machine). make up your mind, Asobo.

oh, and “Mixed” units in the Language settings (i.e. everywhere in Euirope) should be kg, knots, feet, hPa and NAUTICAL MILES, not KM. i fail to understand how a French developer made that mistake. French aviation does not use KM for distance (see below).

It was probably a requirement from Microsoft and not a mistake.

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They wanted to attract the gaming crowd to flight simulation. I think they’ve failed on both fronts.
I think eventually it’ll overwhelm them, and they’ll close it down. Remember MSFLIGHT?

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In the real world, ‘Free flight’ is VFR.

In the UK at least, a GA flying VFR can fly in F or G Airspace without a filed plan.
No clearance is necessary.

Put the destination airfield in the ‘Deatination’ panel on the homescreen. This is you getting PPR from the destination airfield.

Where the Sim ATC falls over is when tuning to an airfield frequency, there is NOT an optrion to request ‘Zone Transit’ without landing.

The way to get around this is to request a full stop landing, get instructions to join pattern, and then cancel the landing to fly through.

ATC here is a computer, so you won’t get a bad reputation.

Other than the first 12 hours, and once I figured out how to configure my peripherals, my last 40 hours in the sim all in Free Flight have been largely trouble free.
I have no interest in Career mode or challenges or the like.
To be fair, the time in-sim has been exclusively in GA singles (C-172 and G36) flying in remote North Western Australia and the Northern Territory.
Sure there has been quirky behavior from AI aircraft and the annoyance of not having your preferred aircraft registration appear on your aircraft of choice, but these are small potatoes that will be fixed in time.
I’ve just completed Leg 16 of my 9th Around the World Tour in GA singles and light twins all in VR, in real time and real weather and so far the experience has been very satisfying. Not perfect, but believable and enjoyable.
Looking forward to some more complex GA singles which will come soon enough once my extensive FS2020 library can be ported over.
My biggest wish now is for greater persistence that I can use between legs a la Real Air Simulations. In fact I would love it if we could park an aircraft, exit the sim and then re-enter the aircraft in the next session in the exact location, orientation and configuration that we left it in the previous session. That is my fervent hope that I don’t think will be a huge priority for MS or Asobo for a long time.

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that would so easy to implement and so logical.

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So how do you board the aircraft?

Im standing outside of the A380 and see no way to enter the aircraft. The jetway is retracted. How is this done???

OH AND UHHHH there is what looks like a interloper sitting under me…

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Triple decker plane?! :sob: :sob: :sob:
P.S. to enter the plane you should click on the door