Thank you! By following your instructions, it popped out successfully with your method without minimizing MSFS>
Thank you. I did just that last night.
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Although I have received no response from that. Not sure that site is monitored by anybody?
Yes, itās monitored by the author Stan (@RoastGnu). But the project is a personal one, itās not a business, so I guess he spends the time he has on it when he has the time. Heās usually pretty responsive, but maybe heās away at the moment or just doesnāt have time.
The symptoms youāre describing are unusual. Ordinarily, POPM canāt affect the MSFS window itself. It does minimise the POPM UI when itās popping out. My working theory would be itās something about how your sim is configured (full-screen vs windowed, single vs multi-monitor), something else youāre running (are you running Flow or Chaseplane at all?) thatās clashing, or similar.
Put it this way, Iāve been using POPM for 5+ years now and Iāve never heard of anyone having this particular issue.
Maybe screenshot all your POPM settings, and, if you can, capture and post a video of what happens when you pop out. That would help us to help you.
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I think I might have semi-reproduced the issue you described. I sometimes have a small touchscreen monitor that I only have plugged in when flying GA planes with the TDS GTNxi. When flying airliners, I use that same desk real estate for a Winwing MDCU/PFP.
I was tinkering a bit, and used POPM for my Comanche, and didnāt have the touchscreen plugged in when I hit āStart Pop-outā. POPM actually launched some unrelated app I have pinned to my taskbar. Iām guessing POPM gets confused when your monitor setup changes. I plugged in my mini monitor, and it still didnāt work, so I had to recreate the panels, which is easy.
All that said, Iād say delete and recreate the panel setup for whatever plane(s) you see this issue, if you havenāt tried that already.
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Iām having an issue with Pop out panels in MSFS 2024 with Frame Generation enabled.
After popping out the instruments to a secondary monitor. (60hz) The main MSFS window gets performance drops and movement is jerky.
Iāve tried with V-Sync disabled in the sim and enabled in NCP. Iāve also disabled it in NCP with no luck.
I opened the FPS debug panel and noticed the FPS quickly constantly going from 2x to 1x
The mouse is on the main MSFS window and this bug still occurs.
Has anyone else experienced this? Am I doing something wrong?
TIA
Thank you sir! Not running Flow or Chaseplane. Trying to run RealSimGearās G3X, GFC 500, G5X, and G650Xi. Using Air Manager, and TDS GTN Xi to integrate those. Almost had everything working and then this problem cropped out. I am attaching a low-quality video of what happens and the POP mgr settings. Also attaching a photo of the panel we have build and are trying to get running. Very appreciative of your help! Mike
Yes. POPM knows where to RIGHT_ALT click in the MSFS window based on the Windows desktop coordinate system, which starts with 0,0 at the top leftmost point in your multi-monitor setup (IIRC). If your monitors change or move relative to each other, the coordinate system changes too, and the previous positions for click spots and popped-out windows are no longer valid and need to be adjusted.
This has happened to me multiple times when (for various reasons) Iāve had to reset my monitor layout and have been unable to put them back exactly where they were, or when Windows has failed to recognise a monitor, or when changing monitors (Windows remembers groups of monitors and if one changes, it resets everything). I actually invested in SyncFusionās software to allow me to save and restore window positions - saved me a lot of time.
If this is @MikeAg12345ās problem, itāll be easy to diagnose. Start POPM, click on the green ādot and crosshairsā icon and you get icons next to each panel to view where the click spot is now, and you can drag and drop it elsewhere. Iām not on my sim PC right now so I canāt screenshot this, but itās reasonably intuitive.
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Iāve had a look at the video; the first thing I notice is that youāve got MSFS in windowed mode. Can you try full-screening it with ALT+ENTER, and then doing the popping-out?
I have a feeling that when POPM is minimising its own window it is somehow also forcing the MSFS window to minimise. This is why Iād like to see all of your settings pages. If you can screenshot them all and post them here, I can take another look.
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Which settings in particular? Let me know and I will screenshot them all! Thanks!
Just go through all the settings pages. Itās all useful.
Iām so sorry. You mean the setting pages for the Pop Out Manager (only)?
Yes, POPM only. Not MSFS or anything else.
Hi all,
Sorry for not able to reply messages for the last couple weeks. Iām currently on vacation (unplug from electronics as much as possible) and will get back home this weekend. Iāll catch up on supporting issues once I get back home and I would like thank you all users who help provide support for POPM to others during my absence.
As for the issue of POPM minimizing MSFS, there is a setting in POPM preferences to minimize POPM during pop out process. Please try disabling that and see if it fixes the issue. It could be new bug in POPM with latest SU update when running MSFS in windows mode.
Stanley
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Hi all,
Got back from vacation and was able to complete preliminary coding for ChasePlane 2024 support.
Please download POPM 2024 v1.0.3 beta from my Github repo.
To have ChasePlane support, POPM requires ChasePlane v2026.7.4.20+. This version of ChasePlane has camera websocket API support which POPM is able to use to change camera view.
Iām not 100% sure is ChasePlane v2026.7.4.20 a public or experimental version. When I download the installer from Parallel42, the file name is āChasePlane 2024 Manager (experimental).exeā but in my Parallel42 download account, it says click to download latest. Anyway, I was provided this particular version of ChasePlane by Parallel42 to code against.
To use ChasePlane with existing POPM aircraft profile, first enable ChasePlane support in POPM preferences => ChasePlane. You will also need to edit each panel source for your existing aircraft profile. Click the icon that looks like ātargetā symbol in POPM aircraft profile. For each panel, update āfixed cameraā to the camera name that is now coming from ChasePlane camera list. Once that is done, locked the profile. This way, none of your previously carefully defined panel size/location need to be modified at all. Also, any new aircraft profile you want to create in POPM will use ChasePlane camera views.
Please provide any feedback regarding this new feature.
Stanley
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I have tried to follow your guide but the Chaseplane API isnt connecting and fails? Also I dont understand what you mean āFor each panel, update āfixed cameraā to the camera name that is now coming from ChasePlane camera listā I have no options in the Fixed Camera box
Hi! I have the POPM with my msfs2020, as well as there chaseplane experimental build (because i am a tobii user).
Where can I find the chaseplane configuration in the POPM? Just this feature available in POPM for msfs2020?
ChasePlane support is only available in POPM 2024.
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It works perfectly with Chaseplane 2024, thank you!!