Multiplayer Model Matching of not owned planes Missing

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

In Su4 beta, model matching in multiplayer is broken for planes you do not own. Previously in Su2, we would at least get a name tag and generic model like a Bonanza, and in SU3 it was broken as well as we would only get a name tag - no model.

To summarize, in the current beta, if you do not own the plane another person is flying, there is no name tag and no model, nothing even appears!

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Constant, always.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Start the game in multiplayer with some friends or others you organized to fly together. Make sure you are on the same region server and SU4 beta.

  2. Have someone join in as a plane you do not have installed, for example the Citation X from the marketplace which I do not have.

  3. Note that the EFB icon is there, but no name tag or model is visible for that user who is in a plane that you do not have installed.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using: Xbox One game pad on PC

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX 4080 super

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? No

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.

It is hard to show when they don’t appear! But we do have some evidence if required.

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Don’t forget, you will only see other people if they are in the Beta to.

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

In Su4 beta, model matching in multiplayer is broken for planes you do not own. Previously in Su2, we would at least get a name tag and generic model like a Bonanza, and in SU3 it was broken as well as we would only get a name tag - no model.

To summarize, in the current beta, if you do not own the plane another person is flying, there is no name tag and no model, nothing even appears!

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

Constant, always.

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Log in, get some friends to help you, same server of course

  2. Get your friend to spawn in as a plane you have in your library, community folder or streamed, don’t have to be standard, just something you both have, B2 or whatever. Observe that you can see eachother, with name tag. EFB shows a plane icon for you and your friend.

  3. Then get your friend to spawn in as a plane you DON’T have in your library, observere that the EFB icon is there, but no name tag or model is visible.

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? No

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use? RTX3060ti

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share? No

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.

(Maybe after work)

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Everyone else was in the beta as well and other models we owned the planes for showed fine with nametag and correct plane with livery. So that is not the problem.

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Still better than the last build but still a problem last one all addon aircraft wouldn’t show up no name tags nothing

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I might had this today on FlyInFriday in 1.6.11.0:

Peter was flying an aircraft I do not own, I couldn’t see him, but he could see me. I was able to see myself in his twitch stream.

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Can confirm this is still an issue in 1.6.13

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Can confirm also
People aren’t probably reporting this fully yet because it’s the beta and presume it’s just quiet.
When in fact I’m seeing nobody at peak times.
Definitely something wrong here.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: model matching doesn’t work and actually removes visibility of another player entirely is user does not own the plane (greatly effects third party AC , but in general doesn’t seem to be working anyway)

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Certainly more prominent in latest SU4 build 1.6.13.0. ie, all the time

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Boot sim , start flight at busy airport or join friend at said location . Can’t see any players , or friend ( particularly if they are in an AC you don’t own)

YOUR SETTINGS

Vanilla su4 beta

What peripherals are you using:
N/A

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

Nope

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
4070 to super

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

Plenty ram (96Gb)

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.

Chewwy94 9

Hi all,

Please could I ask that players who are reporting this issue to include the full Bug Reporting Template, with all questions filled in, as this is essential to provide as much information as possible when reporting this to the Development Team. I’ll post the full template below for you to copy!

Thanks
The MSFS Team

1 tag is required - add them in the tag section next to the title above:

  • One for platform (ms-store, steam, xbox , or xcloud)

  • One for aircraft if related (start typing in your aircraft name in the tag section and pick correct option)

Feel free to delete this quote section after adding your appropriate tags.

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue:

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

YOUR SETTINGS

If the issue still occurs with no mods and add-ons, please continue to report your issue. If not, please move this post to the User Support Hub.

What peripherals are you using:

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.

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Hello, I have edited my initial post in the template format requested. I hope this helps!

Chewwy94 12

Thank you for the bug report.

We have created an internal ticket to see if our team already has this logged, and if not they will attempt to reproduce the issue and create a new bug report. This item is now marked as feedback-logged. If there is an existing bug report or one is created, we will move this thread to bug-logged.

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(ms-store)

ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Models that I don’t own, modelmatch randomly in planes that I own.
There is no consistency, Airliners modelmatch to GA planes or even helicopters. And vice versa. There were modelmatching planes from the sim itself for a lot of planes in SU2 and before. I never see them in SU3, or SU4 beta

Planes also don’t refresh, if someone changes planes the plane doesn’t change unless I load them back in. by turning multiplayer off and on or toggle Aircraft Traffic Variety off/ ultra

If you use the new option, Multiplayer replication models.
-Simplified. Every model, even models you own will just random match, no logic airliners to bush planes, helicopters. But you see everyone.
-High fidelity. The planes that I own will match correctly. But you will not see the anything if you don’t own the plane, not even the nametag.

Also, nametags are only visible for 5-7 Nm

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

Always when I don’t own the plane, and when the other plane changes plane

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Load in any group flight If you don’t own the plane, you can toggle Aircraft Traffic Variety off/ ultra. See the plane change randomly, specially when there are a lot of other multiplayer planes around.

Let another plane change plane it doesn’t change for you, only when you turn multiplayer off and on or toggle Aircraft Traffic Variety off

A workaround is to put it on high fidelity first, then toggle Aircraft Traffic Variety off/ ultra or toggle multiplayer. Let them load in and then put it simplified, that worked for me. Then at least it matches the models you have

YOUR SETTINGS

Developer mode on or off doesn’t change it

13900k 64Gb Ram Nvidia 5090
Sim is on a fast NVME drive

MEDIA

Please add a screenshot or video of the issue occurring.

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Is this better now with latest beta? There were fix added to this matter.

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Quoting Heclak`s posting in SYDSquadron discord channel:

Simplified

  • only uses the Asobo Passive Aircraft library
  • must have an exact ICAO match to a model in the library
  • ignores owned custom models to maximise fps

High Fidelity

  • will use custom aircraft models from aircraft that you own
  • has a bug where if you don’t own the same custom model, the MP traffic will not load
  • has a bug where it doesn’t use the passive aircraft library as a fallback.
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thanks for clarification. Modelmatching with AI OFFLINE traffic is not working also. Havent worked since launch. I thinkg i need to make bug report about it also.

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Could you point me to it? Can’t find it.

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https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/modelmatching-is-broken-with-ai-offline-traffic-custom-bgl-s/744922

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Feedback for .29 Model Matching:

Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.38.10
Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.38.101920Ă—1080 175 KB

Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.45.12
Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.45.121920Ă—1080 142 KB

Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.44.08
Skjermbilde 2025-11-26 12.44.081920Ă—1080 123 KB

Seem Model Matching Fallback has been fixed!

But, as seen on screenshots, the fallback table is a bit…..basic?

Room for improvement, yes?

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I’m realising the whole ICAO list is huge, and getting a sensible fallback correct is hard.

I was happier not seeing taildragging airliners, tbh, but the nametag fix helped locating players at least!

Option 1: Have an option in Online settings to not show models not owned (keep the tag though!)

Option 2: Have an option in Online settings to show same model as you (makes sense in group flights)

Option 3: Give some local tools to make substitute exceptions, manualyl group unknown planes into types (heli, taildraggers, GA, airliners, etc. to help the sim choose the correct passive…)

Or something.

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I’m testing SU4 beta, and there are still some modelmatching issues…