Hello everybody,
After a long break, i wanted to use the MSFS now i noticed the following, i created a flight with simbrief. I loaded the over the MSFS only there are no SID STARS and so on. everything is empty. does anyone have a tip?
Sorry, but the tip is obvious (and one I am very close to following myself)
“Take another long break”
If you really want to use MSFS202 and simbrief Flight Plans, the developer of LNM has a work around, because LNM can produce more MSFS2020 compatible Flight Plans than simbrief.
Load your simbrief generated FP into LNM , and then export it in MSFS format and use that exported plan.
Your topic is talking about Navigraph, but your post is talking about simbrief. Which one is it?
Simbrief is Navigraph now…technically speaking of course. OP needs a little more information. Is he trying to download the MSFS .pln (or whatever it is) from the simbrief website and saving it into a folder in MSFS file structure so he can load it into FMS that way and have ATC or whatever IDK. I have always wondered how you can input an external flight plan like for CRJ or CJ4 and have a IFR ATC with the default ATC in MSFS. I know 100% there are tutorials on youtube for this. I’ve just been lazy and not bothered to watch any yet.
Well you can just load .PLN files on the world map, and start a flight. And the flight plan should be loaded.
Personally though, I don’t really like using SimBrief. It’s too much tool requiring to much input to have a proper flight plan, while we can achieve the same thing using the default world map flight planning tool which is a lot easier in my opinion. Click departing gate, click arriving gate, switch to IFR High Airways, Pick SID, pick STAR, and click Fly, and everything is loaded and ready to go.
Just make sure the Navigraph navdata AIRAC cycle is updated regularly using the Navigraph Client Beta installer. Everything should work just fine. Been doing this method for months.
I didn’t realize that having Navigraph would update the nav data and be able to be used via the world map. I do actually like the world map for flight planning. Do you have the CRJ? I think you would still have to manually program the FMS for an IFR flight but can you set your route in the world map so you can at least get the default ATC to work when flying the CRJ?
I don’t have the CRJ… I only fly Airbus exclusively. The CRJ doesn’t excite me as much as an A350 or A380.
You can’t simply have navigraph. You need to download the beta client and use it to install their navdata. I got navigraph because the navdata in the default MSFS especially the Chinese airports have ILS offsets which in reality doesn’t, which makes your ILS approaches to land on the grassy area rather than the runway itself. It’s also missing Indonesian airports that are newly opened in the last 5 years, which the Navigraph navdata is already updated with them.
Yea ive done all of that I just wasn’t sure about inputting a flight plan via the world map and getting ATC to work.
SimBrief requires too much input??? I literally have to enter 3 things - the aircraft, originating airport, and destination airport. That’s it. How can it be ANY easier?
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I swear when I create a flight plan I had to create an airframe first since the A320neo wasn’t there to begin with. Then every flight plan I have to enter Departure Time, Arrival time, weight, fuel, number of passengers. Not to mention I have to know the ICAO airport code, which I have an extra step that I have to search. All of which I don’t want to enter it every time.
Then by the time I had everything done, and save .PLN file and load into the sim. I still have to pick the gate that I’m departing from, and to avoid being directed to a parking ramp by the ATC, I had to pick the arriving gate as well. As soon as I do that, the entire flight plan changes anyway. Then I also get a weird SID and STAR. Even if I get everything done, by the time I look at how long my flight would take, if I don’t like it. I have to do the whole process all over again. I tried simbrief for a couple of flights and I don’t like it. It’s too much of a hassle.
With the sim’s world map, I just look at the map and decide which area I’m in the mood for. Zoom in, pick a gate at a departing airport. Then zoom out, look at the aircraft range ring pick the gate at the arriving airport, then zoom out, if I don’t like the flight duration, I pick a different destination or even a different departing airport. Once I’m happy with the duration, I just pick a SID and STAR based on the weather that is also visible on the world map and I’m good to go. There’s no need to do it externally since everything is done within the sim.
I’m not saying SimBrief is bad… I’m saying it’s a powerful tool with a lot of great things to have, and I can see the appeal for much more serious simmer who wants proper flight planning that’s close to realistic as possible. But for me, it’s like cutting an apple with a chainsaw. The tool is just too powerful for me who just wants a point and click flight planning and using visual cues rather than text-based. So SimBrief is not for me.
Once again, too answer the OP question without the Red Herrings -
LNM can produce more MSFS2020 compatible “Formatted” Flight Plans than Simbrief.
- Load your Simbrief generated FP into LNM
- Then export it in MSFS format
- Use that exported plan and load it into MSFS
For me it don´t work: Simbrief to LNM to MSFS. Only generating flight plan on MSFS, I can see the plan on MCDU
That is strange … Have you tried making your flight plan in MSFS (in Welcome - flight panning screen, and the saving it while there, before starting to FLY.
Then while in the Flight Planning page, make a different one, and then load back in the one you saved.
(1) Does the MCDU see that loaded in FP. ?
Make sure you have the LATEST LNM.
It was only recently that LNM was updated to create correct MSFS FPs, with the fixes associated with airport (ie Sids & Stars), being correctly entered, with their associated airport ICAO code.
Prior to that, those fixes without associated airport IDS, did not allow the correct Sids & Stars to be formed.
If you care to post a typical simbrief FP that you have that is not working, maybe I or someone else can look at it and see if we can spot what is going wrong.
It should work : Simbief ->- LNM ->- MSFS (provided you have the lastest LNM)
I will explain it to you again regardless of how I create a flight plan, be it with simbrief or with the MSFS flight plan. If navigraph is installed, I cannot select SID STAR approaches, departures and flight waypoints are missing and I only have that if navigraph is installed
You can only select SID and STAR in the flight planning menu if you change from VFR to IFR Low/High Airways.
I plan my flights with Navigraph on the WT CJ4.
Works fine.
No problem loading the plan into the FMC.
New instalation solved this problem…