Description of the issue: The “Fluglienienverfahren” was evaluated to -13. To my idea it should be in the range [0, 100].
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I never installed any community mods or add-ons.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? once
REPRODUCTION STEPS
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Not reproducible
YOUR SETTINGS
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Thrustmaster Airbus
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
No
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
NVidia RTX 3500 Ada
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Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• Same as op
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• Really tanks the reputation, i dont remember the last time I got C. This with the minus value happened twice till now, even though following procedures as usual.
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• The transmission misses were also due to a bug in coms, but those are not impacting the score as much.
This happened to me again. Apparently its always -13% on airline procedures and always have 2 Missed ATC Transmissions. The thing is, this flight I didn’t even have a missed ATC transmission at all, so it counted transmissions that I never received. Both flight I had was long, no skip, used sim rate acceleration here and there, but a good portion of it flew at normal speed (to take pictures). So it might be related to long flights. I did everything according to flight plan and ATC instructions, so the score should be 100% as it usually is. The big problem with that the score is so low it brings me from S to C, and it takes much more flights to get back to S.
The pitot heat is interesting idea. I didn’t fly with it in icing conditions, i flew only in Africa and the career is always daylight, plus it also seems its summertime. I don’t really know these things with icing very well, so could be that I didn’t notice something like that. I only flew the 208B for medium cargo, but I plan to get a pc-12 as well just for the change.
I was thinking it could also be related to time of flight, since they mention “timely delivery” in the briefing. What timeframe the mission displays on the map (7h or anything) is sometimes quite off from how much time you would actually do it without skipping (i had one displaying 20h and I got it in 8h in game time), but the medium cargo missions are designed for either a 208b or pc-12. The ones for pc-12 have FL 290 on their flight plan (in employee mode those would be done with a pc-12). But the pc-12 is way faster than the 208b. So if we take a mission that was meant for a pc-12 and do it with a 208b, we are a slower than the mission would expect. Just an idea, I haven’t checked it yet.
On the note of employee missions give the same, I didn’t do much employee. Maybe there is a threshold in time and if you are like 10 min above it then it counts as you are taking too long.
Either way this would be hard to test. Whatever it is, its definitely calculated wrong because it shouldn’t go minus in the first place.
Hell no, that graph applies for carburetor icing only, besides the C208 and PC-12 have no carburetor. It has nothing to do with pitot tubes icing over or other kinds of icing. Icing occurs at 5 C SAT or below in the presence of visual moisture. Icing is not more common in summer (obviously), has nothing to do with dewpoint or power setting.
A carburetor is a different story, inside a carburetor there is a venturi which reduces the pressure and therefore the temperature, also fuel is evaporated which causes a further drop in temperature. Therefore it can freeze inside the carburetor while the outside temperature is significantly above freezing (even in the summer). There doesn’t need to be visual moisture present in the atmosphere for carburetor icing to occur, as long as there is some kind of moisture in the air. Warm air can hold more moisture compared to cold air, therefore carburetor icing is more likely when outside air temperature is warmer. At low power settings the engine (including carburetor) cools down, therefore more chance on carburetor icing.
Hence your graph only applies for carburated piston engines, nothing else. It indicates when icing can occur and periodically needs carburetor heat to be applied to clear any ice. For all other kinds of icing, three things are needed:
Temperature at or below 5 C SAT on ground or 5 C TAT in flight, the aircraft heats up due to friction when flying faster, so in flight we look at the Total Air Temperature which includes Ram Rise. The ram rise is roughly TAS / 100 squared. Certain parts of the aircraft can be slightly colder than others, therefore slighty positive temperatures might not prevent icing.
Visual moisture present in any form, this could be rain, drizzle, snow, visibility less than 1 mile (= 1.6 km) or contaminations on runway or taxiways for ground operations that can splash up and freeze.
Freezing nuclei, which is always present in the form of your aircraft. A lack of freezing nuclei in the atmosphere, such as spliters of minerals, dust particles etc. can cause water to remain liquid at temperatures far below freezing. These are called supercooled droplets.
It’s a bit like placing a water bottle in a freezer. If the water is pure and you handle the bottle with care, it won’t freeze. As soon as you remove the cap and a tiny dust particle falls in or when you smack the bottle, the water instantly freezes, this is supercooled water. It is the same in the atmosphere, water remains liquid until finding something to freeze onto or until it hits your aircraft.
Nevertheless: the last mission (see post from yesterday) was an employee mission. It is not possible to choose the plane in this case; and the mission was for a Cessna 208.
Not dependent:
icing
employee / freelancer
Might depend on:
plane (IMHO until now this was only observed with the Cessna 208)
mission type: only observed with cargo medium mission (correct?)
This time I skipped the mid-flight part: directly after reaching the cruise altitude, I pressed ALT-N and passed on to the landing. This placed me about 5NM away from the airport in 11.000 feet - so I had to diverge from the flight plan and had to fly some circles too loose height. Also I was unable to get the glide-slope working this time, so the approach and landing was manual.
I can confirm that if you divert from approach pattern or slightly from the flight plan, that doesn’t matter. I did it many times even without skipping the flight and had no deductions on the airline procedures score.
I bought a pc-12 for cargo, so we will see if it happens with that airplane as well.
It seems like the long flight time is definetly not a part of the problem. Just went with the pc-12, I was there quite fast, the route and everything according to flight plan, yet it gave me a 38%. I didn’t have anything different than at the flights were I do 100%.
It maybe also related to ATC communication, I did cancel IFR before the mission steps said I should (had VFR approach planned). I don’t remember if I did something similar on the other flights with negative score. Just throw it in as an idea.
Missed ATC transmission seem to be there when this happens. I had for example once 2 missed ATC transmissions, when I didn’t miss any transmissions. That could be indeed related.
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