New Release: Carenado Cessna C170B

and uh, what are you going to do about it??? seems this issue is very widespread in the
gaming industry, stopping with gaming is not an option haha
but i think ppl make too much drama about lil things not working.

If you have a hardware panel with two position switches and assign them in MSFS you will always force the variable of this switch position. It’s always ā€œsetā€. SO if you have a master switch in the cockpit that would activate both battery and alternator but have a switch set to ā€œalternator offā€ it will be off in the sim. It’s a problem with Asobo’s design decision and is also the reason that many people have problems with aircraft like the CRJ or DC-6. Variables are set in the background and there is no (possible) indication in the cockpit.

3 Likes

Simple, vote with wallet.
No fuss, no drama, that’s stuff for forum fighters.

1 Like

What is this for? You click it to extend or retract it.

2 Likes

It’s a vent to let in the nice, cool, summer air.

6 Likes

I can smell it now :wink:

4 Likes

It should spin, too, so you can direct it straight at your nose :slight_smile:

1 Like

True study level feature right there.

6 Likes

:rofl:

That’s truly funny!

1 Like

can’t bang on ā€˜study level’ hard enough far as I’m concerned…keep up the good work

1 Like

Yeah I try the lean in method and end up with my stomach muscles cramping. It must be infuriating if your disability makes that impossible.

The little bit of moaning I did was to Just Flight and not Carenado. They wouldn’t lower themselves to talk to individual customers. They just told me they would look into the problem with the Ovation, and then never did.

Agreed. They just don’t care about VR yet. If it hit them in the pocket then they would start caring but We are just not important enough…Yet.

2 Likes

Same here, I really like the bird, but my landings are horrible in comparison to other aircraft. No matter how well aligned my approach, it’s always a bounce-fest.

Have you found a way to improve your landings yet?

2 Likes

Still experimenting. Best one I’ve done so far was a three-point ā€œfull stallā€ (maybe a misnomer, but the stall warning buzzer was going off) touchdown with no flaps. I’ve seen some people on the internet say the normal technique with this plane is a wheel landing with no flaps and I cannot make a wheel landing in this without bouncing to save my life.

In general I can’t figure out if the flaps are actually needed/helpful for most landings, with 30-40 degrees of flap it seems like you can really make the plane drop like a rock which could be useful for some short field approaches but at a ā€œnormalā€ field is a little hair-raising. Of course the original 170 (being basically a 4-seat 140 with a little more horsepower) had no flaps at all, and the 170A had much smaller and less effective flaps, only the final 170B had these flaps which are basically the same as the ones on the 172. I am leaning towards the conclusion that this plane doesn’t need flaps at all unless you’re doing really tight bush flying stuff and Cessna put the relatively ā€œadvancedā€ flaps on the 170B as a marketing feature to make it seem more modern and complex!

It seems noticeably less bouncy on grass fields although it still does want to bounce some… of course I would expect this to be the case to an extent, but it almost makes me wonder if the shocks in the landing gear are too stiff. But this may be realistic because when this plane was built in the early 50’s grass fields could have been the expected environment for most light GA aircraft? Not sure.

I can say that just comparing Carenado tail-draggers the Waco is much easier to set down (although of course much more of a handful on takeoff).

5 Likes

Interesting. Having watched several YouTube videos on the new plane, the full stall landing indeed seems like the best option. I’ll give it a go next time I have a chance to fly. Thanks for the tip, pal! I’ll also try to verify the grass field theory and experiment with fewer flaps.

Oh, and I couldn’t agree more, the WACO is a real challenge on take off, although my personal nemesis in that regard is definitely the P40 from Big Radials. Love the bird very much, but both take off and landing are a struggle of special extent.

2 Likes

All my landings thus far were comparable to a basketball.

I’m terrible landing tailwheel planes. :disappointed_relieved:

1 Like

It is way too bouncy on landing. It will bounce the full length of the runway if you let it.

1 Like

Are you nosing down to try to keep it on the ground, or are you reducing power, and pulling back slightly to bleed off airspeed? It sounds like your plane still wants to fly.

1 Like

No, no matter how gently I try to put it down, it bounces. Even trying to stall it onto the ground like others have stated.

1 Like

If you are stalling it you’ll want to land on all three wheels. No expert here, just what I do in the sim.

Here’s an example of a nice landing https://youtu.be/3yqYtxj86MA?t=1582