What’s different between them?
They are technical, ‘behind the scenes’ differences, rather than functional differences that are very apparent to the user. The MSFS 2024 version has been built within MSFS 2024, which results in it using the ‘native’ MSFS 2024 lighting effect and model LOD system, the textures are in the new KTX2 format rather than DDS, the WASM gauges are compiled using the MSFS 2024 version of SimConnect, the GNS 430/530 uses the new Working Title v2 GNS etc.
Martyn - Just Flight
This is still happening. Has anyone else encountered this?
Been flying the Turbo Arrow III and really enjoying it again. I have a somewhat esoteric and detailed question though. I want to bind the Alt Air (like Carb Heat) level to an extra axis I have on my Bravo throttle but the Anti Ice binding doesn’t seem to do it. Is there a different assignment somewhere? I know I had this working in FS2020.
It should be possible to control the alternate air lever with the engine anti-ice assignments, e.g. TOGGLE ANTI ICE and SET ANTI ICE.
Martyn - Just Flight
An incredibly well-made product - both in terms of system implementation and flight model, as well as usability. The mere inclusion of adjustable trim sensitivity is a standout feature in itself! That feature should honestly be a de facto standard for all aircraft in the simulator. And then there’s the detailed user manual. And the integrated map in the EFB. And how cleverly the altitude hold mode is implemented for those who can’t live without it? Honestly, I could go on forever.
In other words, everything is so thoroughly thought out that Just Flight deserves the highest praise. This is probably the first Marketplace purchase where I truly see what the money paid for. Highly recommended!
A question for those using the Marketplace version - which version do you have installed? It looks like version 0.6.3 is already available, but the Marketplace still shows 0.6.2. Any idea how long it takes them to push updates to the Marketplace?
Thanks for reporting this. For some reason the Marketplace is still using a slightly older version of the individual (non-bundle) aircraft. We are fixing that now.
Martyn - Just Flight
Thank you! Can’t wait to fly the latest version!
I have been flying the Turbo Arrow in MSFS2020 since launce and now the latest version on MSFS2024. I have had a feeling that the control effectiveness is different between the two sims, and yesterday I decided to do a direct comparison. I did a flight in the Lugano area in both sims with the same control setup (TM Boeing Yoke and double throttle quadrant) and linear response on elevator and aeleron axes. I also use a lever for elevator trim - also linear. I observed that I have less elevator authority in MSFS2024, and need more trim on landings. Easy to see when using an axis for trim. The lever is further aft after landing in 2024 with the same configuration. In general I need to trim more in MS2024 in all levels of flight - if not I run out of elevator range. I have a PPL and have many hours in the Archer and Warrior in real life, and feel that the 2020 version is closer to how I would expect the Turbo Arrow to perform in the sim. But I might be wrong her - others feel free to comment. I love the Just Flight Piper family - don’t get me wrong
I am flying on Xbox X.
Agree, something is weird with the trim and/or at low speeds. Yes, loss of stabilator efficacy and all, but it’s overpronounced. Shouldn’t have to trim that far to regain efficacy and I don’t remember having to pull all the way to the stop while flaring the real plane. It’s complex, though, with an anti-servo tab and no real “feel” of the aerodynamic load on the stabilator/anti-servo tab combination.
I’m wondering if there’s any update on version 0.6.3? Those of us who purchased the stand-alone package are still on version 0.6.2.
Not sure where the fix should come from. After SU3 I can’t get the mixture to work on my Honeycomb Bravo.
Had to fix the known Bravo bindings that are known are messed up by the SU3 update regarding Parking brakes and got that fixed.
Had to re-assign mixture, as it was no longer assigned at all. The lever moves up and down erratically and goes back to Idle, even when unlocked.
Let’s return to the issue of incorrect mixture operation, where enriching the mixture at certain altitudes causes the fuel flow to drop, which shouldn’t happen. As it was discussed earlier, this was due to a bug in the simulator, and based on this post, it seems to have been fixed in the simulator, so developers should update their aircraft accordingly.
Hopefully, Just Flight will take note of this and make the necessary adjustments.
I just came here to see if I wasn’t seeing things with the mixture.
Unfortunately, I’m not seeing things – it needs to be leaned throughout the climb…
SU4 Beta also broke the AP and the GPS.
Of course, leaning during the climb is appropriate.
In a naturally aspirated engine, yes it is. But the Turbo Arrow is turbocharged and should not require leaning the mixture until reaching critical altitude.
What @WxMarc said.

