Newbie to VR

I used to fly in MSFS on a PC long ago and when MSFS2020 was released decided to buy an Xbox X as another PC was not in my budget. Having used my Xbox for sometime I thought that now was the time to buy a new PC. In the end I went for a 7800X3D and a 4080 Super. I also decided to buy a Meta Quest 3 to see what VR was all about.
Having fiddled around with some settings (still lots of fiddling to do) I got VR up and running and I was absolutely blown away. I had no idea the depth of immersion you get. It’s like sitting in the real aircraft!
It absolutely transforms cockpits. The IE F14 is simply amazing. I would advise anybody to have a go at VR, it completely transforms MSFS. Yes, it costs a bit to be able to do it, but for me it’s worth every penny. The online videos you see of VR simply do not do it any justice, it’s breath taking.

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I agree
You never go back :wink:

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I go back and forth quite a lot. :stuck_out_tongue:

@SearFanatic1926 The Q3 seems to be the current go to headset unless you are willing to drop top dollar on one, so good choice. Just be advised that there is currently a bug that will lock it into battery saver mode regardless of the setting toggle, which includes running at low resolution. Some units have even come out of the factory with this bug already tripped. If yours is fine, do not turn battery saver mode on.

If the bug is tripped, there is currently very little you can do because it will even survive a factory reset. Meta has been working on it, but that is taking forever and a day. Some users have reported doing multiple factory resets back to back can help, and there’s a Quest Game Optimizer app you can side load to it that is reported to completely fix it but is a paid app.

If you haven’t already, consider using Virtual Desktop over the Meta Oculus program. It’s a paid app and requires the headset to be on Wi-Fi, but it’s worth it for the added convenience of use and fine tuning of your settings.

Welcome to the wonderful rabbit hole that is VR. Lol

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I use the link and have downloaded OpenXR to play with the settings. It has definitely made a difference. I’m sure that I will be tweaking for a while to try and get the best compromise. I did think about the Virtual Desktop but looking at the forums I would need to buy a router etc and then there’s getting my head around setting it up.

Rather than spending a lot of time messing around with OpenXR toolkit, I’d suggest taking a look at Virtual Desktop. It’s an app that replaces Meta’s own Quest connection software and supports OpenXR. Not only can you create a huge virtual monitor to do PC stuff in headset, but it also in my experience provides better performance than the Oculus connect software. I can turn on the Quest 3 enhancements and up the bitrate to full on my WiFi 6 connection and get smooth, sharp performance.

(They work together, I just found on my system at least that the OXR Toolkit improvements were minimal compared to the hassle of dealing with its user interface. :slight_smile: )

I will have a look at what I need to do to set up Virtual Desktop. It sounds good though. I ran a cat 6 or 7 cable to my PC from my router downstairs. Can I plug this into a new router and then take a feed off the new router to my PC without affecting my current wifi?

If you have an existing strong Wi-Fi 6 network that your PC is also wired into, Virtual Desktop may work on it without issue (mine does). There have been recommendations that the headset should be by itself on its own network and the PC wired into that, but I think that is overkill unless your current setup is in a poor environment.

Unfortunately, I don’t have Wifi 6. My only solution would be to buy a router.

That would be quite the investment just for VR. If you are happy with the current setup, then nothing wrong with sticking with it and wait until ready to upgrade your Wi-Fi in general before trying to incorporate the VR usage into it.

Out of curiosity, do you know your available bandwidth on WiFi where you’d be simming?

You might be able to rent one from your ISP on the cheap. That’s what I do. I think I pay ~$10/mo for it but it’s a modem/router all in one. Very fast wifi 6 included. Running 4 PC’s one VR headset and multiple phones/tablets off it just fine.

Also, Virtual Desktop works over USB C as well. (I haven’t experimented with a dedicated Wi-fi router for VR.)

There are some YouTube videos on how to set up a dedicated WiFi network specifically for the Quest 3…

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What are the advantages of VD other than not being tethered to the PC?

You can adjust bitrates, etc. to get the best performance possible with your particular setup. In my case, I can max everything out (older Asus Wi-Fi 6 mesh router) and the image is noticeably sharper than with the stock connection software.

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You can get better control over the data stream, but also set up in virtual environments with your actual 2D desktop inserted into the scene. That way you can keep interacting with the PC without having to take off the headset. Mine is set to a high-rise apartment with a view of Chicago (I think). It also improved some stability issues for me vs the Oculus app.

I will say that I’m now having an issue with extreme lag in Virtual Desktop after a recent update, but it’s weird. If I’m in the headset and navigating the PC or in VR mode in the sim, things are fine (so at least it doesn’t impact VR flying). If I’m in the sim in virtual 2D mode, it’s like it’s streaming to the headset at 0.8x speed where lag gets worse over time until it runs about 2-3 seconds behind. That use to not be the case, and I haven’t had a chance to research it yet.

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Google Earth in VR is incredible. Give it a try.

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Thanks, I’ll have a look.