Nothing works as it should/ Why?

No, I got Covid mid-late November and couldn’t play, so I had SU7 and everything seemed ok although to be fair I hadn’t been putting in as many hours as previous.

I’m having serious reservations about modern day gaming now and what we are actually purchasing. The experience is constantly changing, sometimes its great and sometimes its poor but no matter what its always frustrating. Cyberpunk, Fifa for example are two great examples at how a game changes over time with constant patching, you can never know what to expect.

I know constant updates are here to stay but they are detrimental to the experience in my opinion. A game should be finished and locked in.

I don’t want to be loading up games not sure what im getting. Ive also noticed a bug with settings. When we first updated it reset all the settings didn’t it? So I re did them all agin and saved them. Well they seem to randomly reset, they did yesterday. Sigh.

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the last game I actually purchased. 70 or so Euros for a bug festival. They scared me off the gaming hobby and I won’t go back if this trend continues. I also won’t purchase any new Microsoft Flightsim anymore just because it looks great in their pre release claims, I’ll wait and have a close look. They really tought me a lesson. I won’t support this behaviour anymore and I can only hope that much more people will get it too eventually. We’re getting ripped off and love it, we really have too much money to spend it seems. I purchased two new DCS modules and got quality development which will entertain me a couple of months easily, this sim, even if it looks kind of good, is far away from that. Together with P3D I can have fun too and honestly, low level VFR in foreign places is nice but saving the money here can bring you there for real once this pandemic is over.

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Cyberpunk. I held off on that, but it’s a title I really wanted to get & fall in love with but…

I followed the whole fiasco. Release day + 1 year to make it right seems to have become the industry standard.

Polished day 1 release experiences have become really few and far between.

Still, even by “release it broke, fix it in first year” standards FS2020 is behind schedule and struggling. It really feels like the sim was in a better state in December 2020 than it does a year later.

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yup, my feelings too. Red Dead Redemption 2 was one of those games that were amazing at release. Other games like Witcher 3 have quickly been updated. MSFS is really doing one step forward but two back. And it’s really an achievement to release something like SU7 and then disappear into holidays without even patching the already fixed things. Naa, people shall download yet another xbox app and enter beta, who knows what issues this will bring…

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There’s an old circus act, where the performer starts one plate spinning on the top of a pole, then gradually adds more and more plates on top of more and more poles. Of course, the more there are, the more he has to rush around to keep them spinning, and not falling off.

When FS2020 was released, it had bugs.

Rather than fix the bugs in the basic sim, for MS/Asobo the top priority was to start releasing World Updates, with more bugs.

Rather than fix the bugs in the basic sim and World Updates, the next priority was to get VR released, with more bugs.

Rather than fix the bugs in the basic sim, the World Updates and VR, the top priority was now to get the XBox version released, with more bugs.

Rather than fix the bugs in the basic sim, the World Updates, VR and XBox, the top priority was now to get the Reno Races up and running, with more bugs.

I would like to think that, with the next update promised to be bug fixes only, they might at last realise there are only so many plates they can keep spinning at once. But more than a year after the original release I’m not at all convinced the penny has dropped.

I hope I’m proved wrong.

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“Far away from that”… Yeah… DCS has over ten years head start.

That’s pretty irrelevant, both are on the market now and are avaiable for the paying customer. If it becomes standard that things that come to market require another 10 years of maturing we’re not heading anywhere anymore. DCS has always been free to use, the modules cost money and when they release they are very much usable in single and multiplayer. Not always finished but progressing quickly. Their amount of features for that price compared to MSFS is insane. To me it’s apparent that there is a certain amount of passion and knowledge behind. I miss it here and that’s the reason for the current state of MSFS imo.

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Asobo can take back on 40 years of MSFS experience. It is actually amazing that mistakes are still being made that their predecessors long ago corrected.


@Ephedrin87 …and have you seen the clouds?! :joy:

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Asobo was handed someone else’s project where the prior developers were fired. The idea of devs taking someone else’s 20 year old code, integrating bleeding edge technology, and being given a timeline determined by MS rather than the devs is a freaking huge task. If you have any experience with large corporations and software development you would likely be looking elsewhere for employment.

Not to mention Asobo is being asked to develop many technologies that have never been done before at this scale and detail. Sure… Asobo is not above criticism, but the product they are developing is way beyond anything else on the market. It’s no surprise there are a lot of growing pains.

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clouds look great in the beta!

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It’s not about code, it’s about how an airplane works.
And there they should actually have got a complete manual of experiences.

Do you have any experience in software development?

It is Always and ever shall be about $$$Marketplace$$$

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No, but I can see if a software is still in the middle beta stage.

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Well that’s true, they have a long way to go yet to make some people happy. Fortunately you have other options.

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I bet half of that “manual” now belongs to lookheed martin since with p3d they are doing the same thing on the same base for a different audience.

It’s a completely unstable, out of control, unreliable mess. I have it on a series x, I love to fly and I fly pretty much constantly but after losing the logbook whenever I try to do anything suggested by msfs to fix a simple issue of not being able to buy anything (I have tried everything and no one can help me fix it) it’s clear that it should never have come to a platform that is not capable of running it properly. Sorry for all you guys who have been playing this forever to see it ruined. The makers or breakers, clearly are not sorry and don’t care :unamused:

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Do you think Lockhead objects to A reading it? :scream:

I keep brooding about Austin, how he has to stand up to hundreds with his half handful of people.

I don’t know, i mean they bought microsoft esp and it would be strange if they don’t own the documentation for it, and i doubt defense cooperations share their stuff with game studios.

:joy::joy::joy: absolutely!