I am looking for a simple option to disable auto-loading of route into GPS or FMS without any work arounds. Also I haven’t tried to plan an IFR flight without destination, I’m sure its possible but then the ATC system won’t work.
Of course you can. Just request from ATC once you are finished with setting up the plan in the FMC.
True, you can ask IFR from ATC
I’ll try but still this is a work around, I’m asking for a simple option to be able to fully plan a flight in the main menu, start cold and dark with an empty FMS / GPS.
Vote it or leave it .
Most of the time with airliner, i plan the route offline using tools like skyvertor. Then i will start at a gate with no flight plan and use the fms to ‘punch’ in the flight plan. But some of the time, after faithfully entering a long route, i will get told to take off from different runway. So most of the time i will leave the sid and star unspecified until i got clearance from ATC.
Why do you want to double load a plan?
What do you mean with double load? I don’t want anything to load into the FMS / GPS at all…
I think i understand what nijnt is looking for. An option to tell ATC of the route in world map (hopefully ATC will adhere to in flight) but leave this plan out of FMS.
Yes, I will see if I can formulate it better
At this stage, i am not sure what the default ATC algo is like. Sometimes it seems that ATC will use NOTAM info of runway closure… So its hard to ‘coorperate’ with it all the time.
You could leave the runways blank indeed, I normally do that as well. I haven’t tried asking for IFR clearance within the game itself, but I assume it won’t take you to the main menu where you can really adjust the route etc.
I don’t mind myself, I fly the Embraer E-jet and ATR myself in real life, I was just wondering why there is no option to disable this. Its not very realistic, I wish it worked like that in real life (with stored company routes it kind of does).
No, there wont be nice interactive planner like the world menu once you jump into the aircraft. There are other threads requesting for charts to be available in flight. We will see if that will be implemented.
Don’t plan the route in the world map, plan it for yourself in skyvector (and similar programs) => nothing get’s loaded into FMS
Once your set up your route manually in the FMS, request ifr from ATC (as in real life). ATC will recognize your manually entered route.
Well in real life ATC has a flight plan for you flight so its not exactly as in real life. But I didn’t know ATC recognizes the manually inserted GPS / FMS route, that’s a good one.
To be honest, I know for sure it did in Patch 2/3.
I didn’t use built-in ATC since then (I use Pilot2atc)
Ah ok, I’m using the ATC system with my own phraseology mod, I did take a look at pilot2atc but I don’t like the made up phraseology.
Ok nice to know, will take a look at it
You can load in at a parking spot/gate without any destination etc and input a flight plan manually via the FMS. You can then request IFR clearance after doing so. The game should recognise you have input an IFR flight plan.
To be fair in a real world scenario - if we’re talking about airliners - routes will be preloaded in to the FMS by the airline and all the captain needs to do is set the departure/destination and any procedure as per ATC.
Not necessarily, some companies use stored company routes, some don’t.