Piper PA28-236 Dakota bizarre flight dynamics (in career?)

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Piper PA28-236 Dakota was acting like it was in a huge crosswind and then a massive updraft (which had the plane flying upwards >2000fpm while pointed downwards) in a career mode flight (but don’t think it’s a career mode issue, just mentioning it).

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:
Piper PA28-236 Dakota

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?
It’s not reproducible yet so cannot tell.

FREQUENCY OF ISSUE

How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?
once – so far – but I’ve only done 2 flights

REPRODUCTION STEPS

Please list clear steps you took in order to help our test team reproduce the same issue:

  1. Do flightseeing mission with the Piper PA28-236 Dakota
  2. Do not know what triggered it to happen

YOUR SETTINGS

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What peripherals are you using, if relevant:
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[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?
career mode

[PC, MSFS 2020 Only] Are you using DX11 or DX12?
n/a

[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
4060 ti 16GB

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
n/a

MEDIA

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This is absolutely normal and real life. If flying between Thunderstorms these are the super dangerous uplifts. That’s why in real life you avoid flying nearby like 20nm to any thunderstorms with a GA plane.

Already had the same in another GA plane and not in career. If you encounter this situation stop the approach fly a 180 or 360 and go out of the uplift. Then advice atc and request a new approach ideally to another runway or divert. No point to continue the approach.

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Maybe theoretically but have not experienced that in MSFS 2024 before and I use badbadweather to find the worst weather in the world and go fly around in it – I’ve done VTOL in the Dakota from high winds (recently at KSQL), high enough to even fly backwards. This felt like a bug (I have 2300 game hours in 2024). I should have turned on Show 3D thermal but it was just like a cartoon plane and I didn’t think about it because I was laughing so much. Planes don’t climb when they are pointed nearly straight down outside of a hurricane or tornado :slight_smile:

If it happens again I’ll get more details with simvar watch and turn on the visualization.

That aside the Dakoda flight dynamics just feel wrong even in calm winds. Holds too much speed at idle power for example.

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I could reproduce it doesn’t matter what GA plane when flying between thunderstorm clouds or super cells. Hence where I was flying there was no thunderstorm. E.G one super cell behind you and another one in front of you like 5-10 nm away. On descent you get the horrific uplifts and then as well later on the downlifts in the cell itself which crashes the airplane literally into the ground. This is really like in real life.