So I created a flightplan in simbrief with correct runways and everything for the current time. I loaded it up in FLTSIM …went into the flight and the clearance gave me a different runway to takeoff from…ok…
I go back to flightsim correct the runway , load back into flightsim…go to ATIS and it gives me a different runway again for the same time …WTF
So again I wash,rinse,repeat…
I go in it gives me a different runway…WTF!
This is stupid.
Please fix your atc!
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Hi there,
To get an overall more realistic ATC experience ditch the default and get Pilot2atc. Excellent piece of software where you can plan a flight, export into FS2020, connect the SIM. Also got XATC chatter that is region selected so you get real ATC background that is relevant to your area of flight. Pilot2ATC then gives you full coverage from ATIS to landing. Plenty of YouTube videos on this by a guy called Clumsey. These vids sold it for me. Ditch the default and think about Pilot2ATC. Steve
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Learn to change your runway without exiting the game
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Sounds like realistic ATC to me.
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In MS2020 you cannot after requesting ifr clearance ingame. You can load in the CMU but ATC will not let you change runways or request a different runway for takeoff like : FSX, P3D, Xplane
I use Simbrief for flt plans I may just think about it
@GrayestTundra4 is right. The IFR flight plan that you make is by no means the authoritative component in your IFR flight. Ground ATC has all the right to change your departure runway should they wish to. Likewise for any other part of the flight.
The thing I find challenging though is that when ATC deviates from your flight plan on departure, they do not give you a new departure route. I’m not sure if this is what is supposed to happen in real life but it makes sense to have a new departure routing given to you should the runway change.
In real life the active runway is a little easier to predict by wind direction, noise preferential runway configurations etc. It doesn’t always make sense in MSFS.
In real life you obviously be cleared via a new departure route in case of runway changes. In the real world the ATC flight plan does not contain the departure and arrival routes either as this is depending on the runway in use. Often runways have departure routes towards the same en-route segments anyway otherwise you’ll be recleared.
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Pilot2ATC is using FAA phraseology at least what I have seen from it. In EU not very useful.
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Or you could just change your runway to the one the ATC gives you in the in game flight computer…
What if you were flying in VATSIM and they changed your runway. Would you exit the whole game just to change the runway? Don’t see how your situation is any different.
Like everyone said, you don’t choose your runways and approaches in your flight plan. You can, but there’s no guarantee that you’ll be assigned the departure, arrival and approach you wanted. Those are all 100% dependent on prevailing winds and other conditions. You typically initially only load in your departure and destination and waypoints for IFR. The rest is assigned to you by ATC. It’s easier to just add these things to your flight computer than to change what’s in there already.
It sounds like you need to learn to use your flight computer to reprogram the changes as they’re given to you instead of restarting the game every time the situation changes.
All that said, the ATC (and ATIS) is all kinds of messed up in many different ways in this sim. But not in the way you’re describing. That’s working pretty much as it should.
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Why don’t you just leave the runway out, jump into the cockpit and listen what runway ATC assigns you for and change your flightplan/departure from inside the cockpit?
What I normally do (even in real life) is check flight radar for complex airports with multiple runways and various combinations of runways in use for departure and / or arrival.
It is annoying sometimes that FS2020 is not always using the runway configurations in use in real life, I guess it must be possible for them to implement this using flight aware data.
The real world scenario is way more complex and surface wind is not the only thing being taken into account. Some airports have their preferential runway system published with surface winds vs time of day etc. That might also work to implement.
The option to request a different departure runway from ATC would be a very useful feature (didn’t we have that option in FS9 and FSX?). At small airports with little traffic I sometimes ask for the runway giving me a more direct routing even with a little tailwind. Sometimes in mountainous regions I HAVE to use a different runway than the active one due to performance reasons.
In short, there are many possible situations in which it makes sense to change departure or arrival runway in real life. Although getting a different runway as expected also happens in real life so its not completely unrealistic 
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Yes that is true. MSFS just looks at the wind data to determine the runways, from the metoblue weather. In real life, there are many other procedures in the airport SOPs, such as what runways to use in certain wind conditions, certain times of days, and it even considers things such as restricted airspaces and more. It is best you either use in game ATC and disregard your simbrief or whatever runway selection, and just adjust the runway/sid/star to whatever wind data is displayed in msfs. No need to reload the flight just change the runway.
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Thank you
Or just disregard the MSFS ATC and take the other runway anyway 
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The best solution – so far …
Another solution, if you are getting that frustrated with MSFS, that you feel the need to come into the forum with a Potty Mouth, is to turn off your PC, and go do something that is more useful, more productive, and more satisfying.
MSFS is not going to disappear overnight… even it it may be not going anywhere that quickly – it will get there in the end … just like all the Flight Simulators before it.
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I’ve never understood the affection to battle with default FSX/P3D/MSFS ATC… it’s all ■■■■, right through. I’m currently sitting In P3Dv5 in a 747 in Frankfurt on runway 07C, I’m cleared for takeoff by default ATC and what happens? an airplane from RW07R crosses my runway 2000m in front of me… It has always been like this and it always will. And if it wants to it suddenly switches the runway due to calm winds and I suddenly have approaching traffic in front of me too after lift off. Just deal with it or use other addons or Vatsim/Ivao. Default ATC will never be great. Just too much effort to develop such an AI basically for free.
If it would just work like it did in FSX it would already be a huge improvement over what we have now. No development effort would have been needed, the code is already there.
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that’s another thing I don’t understand 
except that they might have tried to simplify it for XBOX controller usage. hence the approach vectors in the GPS instead of ATC