Yeah I couldn’t get the pushback to work in the FMC. I have a keybind for toggle pushback. When I press it, the tug pushes me back most of the time to where I roughly wanted to be which is pretty good and doesn’t involve the ATC chatter
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Single class SSW variant. Here’s 59 second of ding ding ding at 6000ft on descent into JFK with seatbelts on auto
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If you have the seatbelt switch to either ON or OFF, I have found that the dinging stops. It a only does it when the switch is at auto. In real life I don’t think the Auto setting is really used. The pilot would just switch the signs on manually anyway
Just flown the SSW single class KMSP-KSTL using my Logitech G305 wireless mouse..
Cruise at FL390.
Was unable to recreate the issue you’re seeing, I’m afraid…
It was another great flight though - with just two or three small stutters in flight and none on final approach to RW30R - there’s a tiny bit of judder whilst panning around the flight deck with mouse or controller but PMDG have done an amazing job optimising the aircraft for Xbox series X at any rate, don’t know how an S would cope.. I’m just very pleased to have the -800 to fly in 2024, it’s definitely resulted in a drastic cut down of the hours I’ve been spending on MSFS2020…
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Folks, a lot of fair frustration has been raised here and the point has been made. At this stage, let’s rein things back in and keep discussion within forum standards.
Criticism is fine, but personal digs and piling on aren’t productive. Please keep it constructive and on-topic going forward.
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I recently purchased the 737-800 PMDG for Xbox and have started some test flights.
I should point out that it works very well in terms of fluidity and performance. Stuttering is very rare, and the aircraft’s overall handling is very good.
However, I’m very perplexed by some aspects:
- When quickly switching the internal view from one panel to another, the autopilot alarm goes off, which must be turned off each time.
- It’s impossible to physically board passengers who remain stranded on the runway without using the stairs alongside the aircraft, even with all doors open.
- None of the options proposed in the FMC solve the problem, and even using the tablet isn’t possible to proceed with boarding.
- Some difficulty interacting with Simbrief due to routes that are sometimes not correctly recognized (e.g., LIBR LICJ). RTE 2 often activates for no reason, resulting in RTE 1 being distorted and projected onto the route path on the main screen.
Maybe I’m doing something wrong.
Otherwise, it’s a great product.
Maybe9357, it’s best to contact our support; they can assist with all of that. I assume you have read the manuals?
https://manuals.pmdg.com/start/#/lessons/_ZcQfBvX2VZ2hNKREVA4hpb8n1hohqy3
Mathijs Kok
PMDG
I looked at the manual, but many of the options provided are unavailable on Xbox due to system limitations.
For example, the passenger cabin light control panels listed in the manual don’t work, even though they’re set to manual in the FMC.
I also don’t understand how to board passengers using either the stairs or the jetway. They remain stationary outside the aircraft without entering it. On Airbuses and other Boeings, by default in MSFS 2024, they board and enter the cabin, appearing seated in their seats.
I understand that this is a minor aspect of the simulation, but it affects the immersion. If it’s designed to work, it should work well.
Another area that could be improved is the mouse clicks on some switches and rocker levers (ground power and landing gear control, for example), which are often difficult to operate.
Again, aside from this and some difficulties in acquiring flight plans from Simbrief, which always require corrections, the aircraft flies very well.
I expect some improvements to be released and then it will be perfect.
Totally agree on switches. Click hold and drag in the direction you want the switch to go is so much more user friendly. The mouse wheel isn’t a terrible way of moving them, but when rockers switches do require a precise click and the mouse wheel doesn’t work with them it’s a bit inconsistent
I can’t say I’ve ever had any issues with simbrief flight plan imports though. Do you have a navigraph subscription? I do so was wondering if the lack of one causes issues
Like you say, the aircraft flies very well. My only gripe is one that I have posted on their forums the other day and it seems to be getting a fair bit of agreement so going to raise a ticket. On final with the localiser and glide slope captured and on single autopilot with intention for a manual landing and fully configured. You disconnect the autopilot and immediately have to pitch forward with the controls and trim nose down to keep it stable on the glide slope and this isn’t normal behaviour. It’s been present on the 737-800 for a while now and should only happen if you disconnect below 400ft with both autopilots engaged for an autoland
I personally prefer the “hold mouse button down” implementation. I’m not sure if it’s only a PMDG “thing”, but I found on Xbox that simply pressing and holding the left mouse button down on the left or right side of a knob (such as the IAS, heading altitude) rapidly increases/decreases the setting in a satisfying way! Much prefer this implementation to the “press, hold and drag” type of interaction.
Having said the above, my preference by far would be some reliable implementation of button acceleration - I have a MIAP pro, which is brilliant but not really useable when you have to change the heading by 150 degrees or the IAS from 130 to 300. Now, if quickly rotating the knobs of the MIAP pro resulted in accelerated instrument knob rotation in game, that would be really good.
I can’t recall which plane it is, but one developer does interpret rapid twists of the MIAP knobs as quick rotation of the knobs in game, so imagine it’s doable. I’ll have to try and re-discover which plane offered this.
I am on MSFS 2020 and Xbox series X.I intend getting one of the B737s but not sure which one.Would it be advisable to start from the lowest rung and get the 600 or should I just get 800.The price difference is huge and I have to learn the ropes.Advice from experts solicited.
The Working Title/Asobo 747 does the accelerated twist if I remember right
The -800 is the most widely used in the real world and so has the most liveries available on the sim. So you’ll end up getting the -800 anyway a month or 2 down the line when you want more than a few obscure liveries. Unless there is a reason other than cost for wanting the -600, it will save you money in the long run to just get the -800
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Thanks. I’ll check that out - don’t think I’ve ever used that plane, so there may be more!
Quite likely. I haven’t really used the 747 on 24 but if it’s anything like the 2020 version, it doesn’t like flight plans with more than a few waypoints on Xbox. The more waypoints, the greater the performance hit
I’ve flown 6 or 7 flights with the 737, but honestly, I haven’t had any problems with the autopilot during the approach phase that Azlog mentions. Maybe I’ll have another problem in the future if it’s a bug.
My Navigraph is active with the subscription, and when I upload routes to the FMC I always have to double-check because there are some inaccuracies, such as extra waypoints or discontinuities on the SIDs or STARs that require correction.
Regarding the mouse, from the standard pilot position, it’s often impossible to pull the landing gear lever up (or down if they’re retracted). It reaches the off position and then can’t be moved to the up phase (or down if they’re retracted) without several attempts, or by moving the view.
I had the same problem with the ground power balancer, which is difficult to turn on from the default overhead view.
I didn’t find anything in the general mouse control settings that could help solve the problem.
I suggest reporting this to the support department so it can be discussed with the responsible people.
Mathijs Kok
PMDG
To move the landing gear lever with the mouse, you’ve got to click the top half of it to go up and the bottom half of it to go down. I just have toggle landing gear keybind which I press to retract. Then I use the mouse to turn it to off and then press the keybind and it extends it from off
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Thanks to Azlog for the valuable suggestion regarding the landing gear and rocker levers on the 737-800. They now work perfectly with the mouse pointed correctly.
I saw that with the 4.0.0 update released today, passengers can now physically board, no longer remaining in the jetway, even though they can’t be seen on board as is the case with other aircraft.
I also noticed improvements in the acquisition of Simbrief routes, which now no longer seem to require corrections. However, I only tried LIMC LIRF, a classic Milan-Rome route.
Let’s see how it behaves on other routes.
One last thing: on approach to LIRF just after the last waypoint, with APP activated, the plane began to deviate from the approach, and I had to disengage the autopilot to bring it back on course.
But I think I made a mistake because I incorrectly entered the second CMD, as is done on A320s. But evidently, that’s not something you should do. I’ve been flying on a Boeing for a short while now and I need to review a few things
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