I’m hoping -and I have absolutely no information that it will in fact happen- that they pull a 737-600 for the LR and sell it for a lower price, since it’s the least popular model
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Been meaning to ask this for a while re 777, as I fly into KSEA on the 777F.
Say you’re already on a STAR, but decide to change your approach to a different runway. After clicking EXEC, the flightplan usually (always?) circles you back to the STAR transition and adds the fixes you’ve already passed on the STAR. I always put it in HDG mode and then adjust the plan to keep things on track.
I’m sure this is real world behavior, but is there a way to prevent this from happening?
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I believe the only way is to adjust your flight plan (delete waypoints) before you hit EXEC.
Not sure if there is other way around it.
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What aircraft systems do and what pilots do LOL! A routing change close to the destination asks the question how much time to I have to make the change most efficiently to get there? I think I would to the same thing and manually manage heading and descent until the FMC could get squared away. That might mean just entering the next fix needed to make the transition to the new route following the charts manually (of course inputting the new approach procedure).
Or if time permits and still a distance out from the airport, input the new STAR and perhaps delete any unneeded waypoints. This is when the crew concept (or lack thereof in flight sim at home) comes in. PF flies the plane, PM updates the FMC, and it all works out in a few minutes. When flying single pilot IFR in an airliner, is there really enough time to do all this by oneself?
There is, but only really IF that single pilot has fully briefed the possible arrival and runway change and has the charts handy for review, and/or is very familiar with the destination airport such that there’s no fumbling or confusion during the process.
On the occasion that ATC (in my case, BATC) changes my arrival from what I expect, I’ve disabled LNAV and gone to HDG SEL to maintain current heading, changed the ARR info on the DEP ARR page of the FMC, then checked the LEGS page for any weirdness like duplicated or out of order waypoints. Then I do a direct-to to the next waypoint that makes logical sense and then re-enable LNAV. It can take a couple minutes for sure. Keeping the aircraft in Heading Select while I’m doing all the reprogramming prevents any unexpected aircraft movements if the waypoints in the FMC get mangled up during the process.
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Okay, so it’s not just me! Strange that Boeing designed the FMS this way, while all other Boeings are much easier, and simply keep your current STAR routing as-is and only change what’s ahead as appropriate.
The only thing about HDG mode..make sure you put it back in LNAV when done with the FMS jockeying. Not that I’ve ever forgotten do do that, ever. [ahem] 
I’ll perhaps ask this in the PMDG forum as well.
I’m not sure it really is different from other Boeings. I’ve changed arrivals in the 737 line before and had the plane do funky stuff with the routing, depending on exactly how different the new arrival is from the old one. The process I do (outlined above) should be the same for any modern Boeing. Going to HDG SEL prevents any goofy sudden course changes, and gives time to find duplicate or overlapping waypoints and delete them. I’m not saying there’s not a slew of changes in the FMS between models (because I know there are), just that from a simmer’s perspective flying routes by myself regularly, this process basically just works.
In the Marketplace for 2020. Oh my, looks like some typos in the descriptions, etc. Look for the 777F. The description talks about the ER.
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There is a MP update for the 77W as well. Needed a RC reset and a warm reboot to get the update working for a flight. Just departed KDEN for KORD to partake of a hot Jetstream in the updated ship, So far, so good. Will buy the freighter later today or tomorrow.
Is the 777f sufficiently different from the regular 777 to warrant another £50?
Sure, if you want to simulate cargo operations instead of just passenger flights. It’s a shorter fuselage with different handling characteristics, some small differences in the flight deck, and completely different interior model compared to the ER. But if that’s not enough for YOU, then don’t buy it.
But go ahead and think of the question you should be asking next: when the -200LR comes out, will the plane be different enough from the 77F to warrant another (INSERT PMDG’S PRICE HERE)?
I look forward to our regularly-scheduled pricing outrage.
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Arrived in Chicago, landed in crosswinds and light snow. Whatever got fixed in the last two updates, it really feels like the FBW system has improved for hand flying the 77W. Either that or I am improving, which I know as fact to not be the case LOL! I’m psyched to fly the freighter tomorrow. Whatever it costs, I will get 10x or more joyful hours out of it than the equivalent cost in lesser add ons that I will wish I had never bought. That for me is the PMDG value proposition. With well over 100 hours on the 737s, and probably nearing 50 on the 77W, the value is there for me.
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Flying the freighter now, FDX MSP to MEM. It’s snowing outside IRL so feels like xmas morning with my new toy, very nice indeed: Thank you PMDG!
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Very small updates just pushed this afternoon through the PMDG Ops Center for both the 77W and 77F. No release notes yet.
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we’ll probably have to wait until after christmas for pmdg to work for mfs24 hope i’m wrong…
Christmas is 5 days away and New Year’s Day is a week after that. I would guess a lot of folks - not just at PMDG but almost everyone who can - is taking off much of one or both weeks. I know I am.
I wouldn’t expect any PMDG aircraft to work correctly in FS2024 until at least February or March the way the sim SDK is still changing. I would be delighted to be wrong but I doubt I am.
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that was the point
I have all the PMDG, I am holding off on freighter version because I am enjoying MSFS 2024 (I know shock horror).
I will order it when its available for MSFS 2024. I am also to happy to pay for all my PMDG to transfer to MSFS 2024 for a small fee.
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It’s all good really. This morning I flew the freighter, then after the patch dropped, flew the 787 in 24. Yesterday I flew the 77W in 2020 and the 787 in 24 (twice). The 787 seems to have gotten better today after the patch, smoother and nothing glitched on a one hour test flight. While these are two very different models that should not be directly compared, going back and forth between them felt very fluid in the Boeing heavy manner of flight.
Really enjoyed all of these Boeing heavy flights and using the PMDG to inform procedure flow as applied to the Dreamliner where it makes sense to do so. Helped me get my 787 set-up in 24, as I had not really flown the Dreamliner much in 2020 since the 777 launched.
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Any liveries in the MP version? Or just PMDG ones?