Do you have any add-ons in your Community folder? If yes, please remove and retest before posting.
I have to have the dc-6 installed in Community folder for it to work.
Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?
no
Brief description of the issue:
The PMDG DC-6 just inexplicably gradually runs into the ground on approach to KDLH, Minnesota. Nothing seems to make the plane level off or increase in altitude; it just keeps going down.
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Detail steps to reproduce the issue encountered:
Take off from KMSP, keep in āGPSā autopilot mode until go to āAPPROACHā mode when the runway is almost directly ahead.
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Steam Did you submit this to Zendesk? If so, what is your ticket #?
No.
@BostonJeremy77 is correct. This is a third-party aircraft and Bugs & Issues is for stock sim concerns only. If this can be recreated using a stock sim aircraft, NavData and no mods, you can reopen the issue.
In the meantime, weāre moving this to #third-party-addon-discussion:aircraft.
Continuing on with this answerā¦
This is not a bug. The plane and autopilot (which it sounds like you are depending on to do more than it was designed to do) is working as designed. As always, read the manual and learn how to use the systems. I havenāt yet, so, sorry, I canāt help you more than that. Perhaps somebody else can pipe in who knows more details.
It sounds like @RarefiedDrop499 has stumbled into āThe ememPilot Procedureā, where the GPS is flying an RNAV glideslope without indicating it is.
Rarified: when youāre around 500 feet high or so, in front of the runway, disconnect the autopilot and land manually. The airplane is on the glideslope and letās say āitās being pulled inā, but āautolandā itās not gonna do.
I was able to get a proper approach into LOWS, but I could not adjust engine power; it was stuck. I was GPS , then went to APPROACH. All was good, really. Itās just that I couldnāt adjust powerā¦what gives? Was it that I didnāt take it out of auto-gyro? But you should still be able to adjust power settings while in auto-gyro, right?
Yes, i disabled AFE ā throttle still stuckā¦the one thing I didnāt try to do was to drag the throttle levers with the mouseā¦afraid to do that because I donāt know if i can pull all of them at the same time?
Hmmmā¦yes, i need to look for the throttle lock in cases like that. I really appreciate all of your help! There are so many moving parts! What a great brain stimulator/way to avoid senility!
Nothing was responding anymore. I could hear the engine slowing down on the actions of the AFE, but the gauges were stuck (except on the left panel). And when I tried to take over, no response.
I managed to land but had to cut the engines (actually I landed by cutting two already in the air - we were going way too fast) after landing, cause even F1 didnāt respond. Full brakes, parking brake, then quickly turn off all the engines⦠I still slid off the runway. But I survived, to tell this harrowing story.
Now, I was also busy with changing the weather and testing a traffic mod and I had confused Jim by selecting different tasks quickly in succession. I do have the feeling this was āinflictedā by messing around with the sim.
I donāt know. I hope this doesnāt happen again.
Successful landing at KDEN (Denver)! Video to follow. She requires a slow, gentle touch. This time the throttle remained accessible to meā¦donāt know of itās certain ILS systems that would cause the throttle lock-up (such as KDLH)?
Here is the video (It starts out fuzzy but gets better at about 36 seconds into the video, and then even better at about 50 seconds in):
First thing to check is the throttle lock if they donāt respond. If you are taking over from the AFE it may have been set on at some point and by skipping the next checklist and flying yourself he wonāt have unlocked them. The lever is by the throttles themselves.
Not saying itās not a bug! But Iāve flown the DC-6 quite a bit and the only ābugsā Iāve encountered are the ones Iāve caused myself.
I think if the throttle is locked with the actual lever, itās probably self-inflicted. I do not see it switch on when Jim is operating.
Strangely, despite that, the throtlles are locked if heās running the show. The lock isnāt engaged, but the throttles are not responding.
Iām not sure how to interpret all that⦠is it a graphical bug? Should the lock be engaged? Or is this by design?
There might be bugs if you confuse the AFE enough⦠perhaps you could end up with locked throttles without them showing the actual lock. I will keep my eye on it a bit more in a next flight.
I think if he is operating the throttles are āin his handsā and you are denied control until you turn him off. I usually wait until he is definitely finished doing his checklist, wait another minute or so then turn him off and I always get full control back. Youāre right about the potential for bugs to creep in with the AFE being switched on and off though - probably the most likely cause of any remaining bugs.