PMS50 GNS530 mod

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@ ScorpionFilm422

OK… Back to GNS530 …

ETA Calculation

Interesting property of Ground Speed, that seems to affect GNS530 (MSFS , and maybe even RL GNS530)

In MSFS, GS is always Positive value, even if the wind is so strong, and you are actually moving backwards wrt ground, being blown backwards, away from your destination.

So when the GNS530 calculates ETA, if the plane is in effect moving backwards, the ETA should be NEVER (infinite) but as the GS goes through that zero point, the faster you are moving backwards (away from the destination) the ETA starts to reduce again.

For Practical purpose, this is probably not an issue – nobody flies a C712 in 100 knot + winds (only in MSFS) - but it was not till today that I appreciated the effect of GS always positive.

Its Actually even more interesting.

If you are heading AWAY from your Destination, the ETA also DECREASES, the faster your GS.

So, based on that, I think the current calculation using absolute GS as a “absolute” Scalar is Incorrect.

The ETA should be Calculated on the COMPONENT of your GS towards the Destination.

This would proved a solution to all the above, and make a lot more sense ???

So even in moderate winds, the ETA will be correct …

Got to wonder what the RL GSN530 does in this situation !!!

Also see : https://groups.google.com/g/apps4av-forum/c/MGqtJqv6W8w?pli=1

Gets even more complicated !!!

Looks like at the moment, ETA is only valid, if your Course is direct to Destination, and you are actually moving Towards the Destination.

Even then if flying on a course Towards you destination, if you are effectively moving backwards, you will get an ETA that will make you think you are going to get there in some specific time, and you NEVER will :yawning_face:

If course, having that nice new Wind Speed indicator in the GNS530 Mod, gives you a HINT when it displays a 110 knot headwind !!!

528

Exactly, the Bruner is, as far as I see it, the best solution for now since its zero force point ain’t fixed.
The controller logic is true to life, those $1.500 rudder pedals and yokes are the absolute top for anyone demanding the highest quality experience.

529

Hey, is that a collimation I see over there ? :slight_smile:
Or just an optical illusion ?
My PhD dealt heavily with the collimated vision (but for other purposes, for a 3 dimensional augmented reality solutions).
Nonetheless, I even have folks in the flight sim community ask me to custom design and provide them with the diagrams, so they built their own collimated cockpit displays…

Now THAT in combination with those 100 N and 20+ lbs of force-feedback Brunner yokes and rudder pedals is totally sick, if you ever have an opportunity to even try it, please try it !
You can’t imagine how it feels when you find yourself in some heavy turbulence and it literally acts like in the real life, you FEEL that airframe in your hands - you literally fight the yoke that wants to break your hands !

Totally amazing stuff, totally amazing… :slightly_smiling_face:

530

Yes, that’s the correct diagram. :laughing:
I get dizzy whenever I look at that stuff.

531

@ Voyager4871

Would be interested any insight you may have about GS and ETA / ETE !!!

532

Ahahah: winds of 100+ knots I appreciate your humor in the second degree.

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533

yes, somewhat “Extreme” , but going to those extremes is enlightening, in that it show up things that might not be quite so obvious at more sedate settings.

The whole on ground stationary, on ground moving, and in-air moving wrt wind speed and direction seems totally messed up – and when I was looking into this, and using your “Excellent GNS530 Mod” (which has brought a whole new life to the C172 - Thank you), I noticed the ETA value was , lets say “interesting”.

There are some thing you may only want to attempt in a Simulator !!!

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534

Oh, that home-built cockpit is so much fun, didn’t have time to reply on that one right away !
Here, I gave it some neural network love, somebody might wanna use it as a desktop wallpaper:

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535

Has anyone else noticed this thread has over 8,900 views? Once again - thanks for all the top notch work ScorpionFilm422

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536

Thanks to you. If you are happy with my work, I’m happy.

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537

Its not so much a question of being just happy, but more appreciating just how much one would be missing, without your efforts and your GNS530 Mod.

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538

I am so totally all around that I needed time to settle down and realize - so you are the genius behind the GNS530 mod the whole planet is using, eh ? :slight_smile:
Well, it’s an honor, I love your coding and the non-bureaucratic approach (yes, make those lines that divide the Closest Airports page, absolutely).
How cool…he is The Guy… :slight_smile:

Cya in the virtual skieeees ! :wave:t2: :tophat:

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539

@ScorpionFilm422, just adding my name to the list of very happy “customers”. I was finally able to install your mod and try out a few ILS / RNAV approaches in the Mooney today, and I love the changes. Breathes fantastic new life into the 530! :+1:

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540

Hi Scorpion,

When I select a direct to approach fix, it takes me there, but I’m not able to scroll to the next fix of an approach and hit direct to.
Ex. If I select initial approach fix for an approach, after I cross it, if I scroll to the next fix such as the airport, it defaults to last fix.
I have to re-enter the identifier manually instead of scrolling to the next fix and just hitting direct to enter. Just asking if it’s possible? Thanks.

541

Hi,

Please verify in your content manager that you have the last mod version, currently 1.0.11.
Then give me your flight plan (as short as possible) and the exact steps to reproduce.
Otherwise, I can’t help.

542

I am using v 1.0.11.

Easy flight plan. TAPA to TNCM (Direct to) add RNAV 10.

Let me know if you can go direct initial approach fix then direct to airport using active waypoints.

Thanks.
Jose

543

Ok I see what you mean.
Once you are flying a direct to, the directTO page displays the current direct to target, so selecting another target from the flight plan has no effect and the current direct To target is still displayed.
I will check that with the real gns530 for this behavior.
Now when you arrive to your target direct TO WP, let the gns530 automatically continues the flight plan. Then you can set another direct To target since we are no more in direct To mode.
You can also go to the direct TO page and, from the menu, cancel the current direct To. Then you can select another one.

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544

Strange, today I used with delight your GNS530 as usual but I noticed one thing that didn’t happen previously !
Aircraft was following the route as filed, display was conformed to the route, “direct to” ok as well, all points present in the blue popup, but… when clicking FPL navigation was EMPTY ! Absolutely no point !?

545

Thank you to be more precise for me to reproduce an issue.
Sometimes the FPL may take some time to be displayed.
We may also have some internal sim’s kernel bugs.

546

The native GNS530 reacts as you’d like it to do (you can select another direct To while in the current direct To mode). So I will change that, hoping no side effects.

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