[Polls] Sim Update 15 (1.37.18.0) Discussion

Read the Release Notes here.

Please use this thread to discuss the latest update, version 1.37.18.0. Other topics created to discuss this thread may be merged here. However, if you have a new bug report, please post it in the Bug Report section of the forums.

:warning: PC Users (Steam and MS Store) - Poll Questions :warning:

Feel free to answer these poll questions after you download and experience the new update.

Did you remove all your mods from the community folder before launching the new build?
  • Yes
  • No
  • Oops, I forgot. Will do that now and try again.
  • I don’t use mods
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Did you experience any problems while downloading and installing the newest update? If yes, please respond to this post and let us know more details.
  • Yes
  • No
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Have you experienced any CTDs in the menu or World Map areas?
  • Yes
  • No
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Have you experienced any CTDs in flight?
  • Yes
  • No
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On a scale of 1-10, 10 being smoothest, how is your performance/stability in this update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
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Is your performance/stability worse, the same, or better than the previous release build (1.36.2.0)? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
  • Worse
  • The same
  • Better
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:warning: Xbox Series X|S Users - Poll Questions :warning:

Feel free to answer these poll questions after you download and experience the new update.

Did you experience any problems while downloading and installing the newest update? If yes, please respond to this post and let us know more details.
  • Yes
  • No
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Have you experienced any CTDs in the menu or World Map areas?
  • Yes
  • No
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Have you experienced any CTDs in flight?
  • Yes
  • No
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On a scale of 1-10, 10 being smoothest, how is your performance/stability in this update? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
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Is your performance/stability worse, the same, or better than the previous release build (1.36.2.0)? Please vote once you have played the updated sim for at least an hour.
  • Worse
  • The same
  • Better
0 voters

:warning: All Users (PC and Xbox) :warning:

On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, how would you globally rate this update (This question will be used as a reference between each update)
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Frequently Asked Questions

What do I do if I was in the Beta?

If there is an updated build, you will receive it automatically when the retail version goes live. If the retail version is the same build as the latest beta build, you will receive no updates. If you do not want to participate in future Betas, after you have updated to the latest build, manually leave the Beta. If you do not manually leave, you will be included in the next Beta build that is released.

Where can I find out about Known Issues

Click here to view the Known Issues list

How do I see my current version number?

Press Alt+Enter to change the program from full screen to windowed mode. The version number is at the top title bar of the window. Additionally, the version number is displayed by holding down Alt+Tab (above the window icon) or available in-game by clicking on your gamer tag profile icon from the top right of the main screen. The version name is displayed in the dialogue box under your gamer tag

Do I need to do anything with add-ons in the community folder?

We highly recommended that you move the content from your community folder to a temporary location on your hard drive before applying the patch and replacing after testing the new version.

Why were certain bugs or issues not included in the patch notes?

If you are still experiencing an issue then create a topic in Bug Reports & Wishlist or file a ticket on Zendesk, using the “Submit a Request” option on the top menu bar. Include as much detail as possible, including the version of the game you are running. Remember the forums are not the official platform for bug tracking.

This patch is part of an ongoing patch release, so if your issue isn’t patched this time it does not mean it won’t ever get fixed! Check out the #self-service:bugs-issues category to see if others are reporting the same issues (where you can also vote if you have the same issue)

What should I do if the update doesn’t start automatically?

  1. Check Windows 10/11 for updates. If any, restart your PC
  2. Manually check MS Store for Updates
  3. Then update MSFS

If this still doesn’t work, the best course of action is to log out, restart your computer, and log back in.

What should I do if the update seems to stall or stop downloading?

The first thing to try is closing down MSFS and restarting it. The downloading should start again once MSFS is restarted. If there are problems with a particular file downloading repeatedly (on a loop) then exit MSFS and browse to the download location where the file is downloading to using windows explorer. Delete the offending file (if it is listed) or the latest downloaded file in that folder and then restart MSFS. The patch should continue as normal. (Note only delete files do not delete folders!)

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All polls other than those related to download/installation are deliberately closed for the time being. We will open these polls for voting in a few hours after players have had a chance to try the new Sim Update.

Thanks,
MSFS Team

[Edit: all polls are open for voting now!]

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2 Mbit/s here we go again. :sob:

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Update size?

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And can you favorite aircraft now?

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16GB finished in 15 minutes with an average rate of 142.22Mbit/s

Additional 17Gb in Content Manager finished in 24 minutes with an average rate of 94.44Mbit/s

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Resume installation SU15
Data : 15,57 Gb
Download start : 17:05 local time
Download end : 17:16 local time
Average download speed : 230 Mbits/sec
Great :facepunch:

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If we were in the beta, is there no update expected for today as the last version is the current public release? Just content folder correct?

Hello @Trex2269152,

If you were in the SU15 beta, then you are already on the correct version, 1.37.18.0. You may have some additional downloads in Content Manager available, though.

Thanks,
MSFS Team

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Fullscreen/windowed mod at the start bug fixed! <3 <3 <3 Fullscreen stays as fullscreen now :slight_smile:
There are new options at Devmode > Debug > Display FPS showing on Onscreen display at memory info area! <3
Raymarched reflections loading slowly while changing cameras is not fixed.

Performance seems way better and stable. All tests Dx11 1440p DLSS Quality 7800x3D rtx4070 2x16gb Win11Pro . Exact SU14 SU15 settings/conditions (forgot to install latest DLSS file, so updated results with 2.4.x.x, 3.5.x.x and 3.7.x.x)(SU14 was 3.5.x.x, SU15 initial update 2.4.x, installed 3.7) - Album on Imgur I will test heavy airports i tested before which i have fps results captured and compare FPS, stuttering and stability in next 2-3hours.

Added SU14 vs SU15 EBBR | 169R | Aerosoft – Brussels comparisons to imgur link above (added video). SU15 avarages around 92-96 (OBS video capturing reduces fps by 4-6 Nvidia encoder) (screen capturing reduces almost the same, hard to capture top FPS), while it was 81-91 on SU14 same graphic options, time. Same or just a little better smoothness while changing cameras in cockpit and outside 360 view.
Mainthread 11.8ms on SU15 vs Mainthread 15.5ms on SU14 inside pmdg737-700 cockpit! You can see in imgur photos. 7800X3D

No crashes on World Map, still testing since 15mins, tested every options. Just a small bug or don’t know if this is intended, there is a white circle sometimes, not causing any issue or CTD Imgur: The magic of the Internet text**
Edit: World map bug > it began to not zoom into airport when i hover over airport circle small icon, left click and use “Set as Departure”, no zooming happens.This began to happen after 25m test on world map.

No problems on any menus so far after 15mins testing. What shocked me is the Marketplace > Airports > Airports Map is loading instantly and so smooth now, it was laggy and freezing at SU14.

I will test more airports, fly some destinations fully, will check ground textures and more. I have pains right now killing me, i need to relax and rest some.

Thanks DEVS! <3 I can’t wait to test more. I will check the standart, Deluxe and premium airports also later. So many things on the release notes to test <3 <3 <3

Loading times way more faster! It is like Magic, 36secs Dune Photo to main menu, all total 1m22s to main menu from .exe start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61N56uqvSSQ

Strange KJFK | A7 | inibuilds results added to imgur (SU14 SU15 all same settings, time, clear weather, no traffic, all same conditions, just forgot to activate Vsync on SU15 screenshots).
-SU14 DLSS 3.5.1.x - SU15 DLSS 2.4.x.x
Cockpit view > SU14: 85.2fps - SU15: 93.3fps
Outside view > SU14: 97.0fps - SU15: 86.1fps
Drone view > SU14: 101.4fps - SU15: 93.0fps
-SU14 DLSS 3.5.1.x - SU15 DLSS 3.7.x.x Preset E
Cockpit view > SU14: 85.2fps - SU15: 93.5fps
Outside view > SU14: 97.0fps - SU15: 92.2fps
Drone view > SU14: 101.4fps - SU15: 98.5fps

Updated results with DLSS 2.4, 3.5, 3.7 results (forgot to install new 3.7 dlss after SU15 updates, so 1st results were with DLSS 2.4.x.x) (outside and drone view results increased with dlss 3.7.x.x update)

Last Edit: Added SU5 1.37.18.0 vs 1.37.19.0 results to imgur link (all DLSS 3.7.x.x preset E, DLSS Quality)
There is good amount of performance drop at Cockpit view(s) and also some at outside and drone views.

7800x3D - RTX 4070 12gb - 2x16gb - 2x 2tb nvme - Win11 pro - DX11 - No clouds - Dlss Quality - 1440p - No ai trafic, ships, cars etc - No rolling cache - All shaders/sceneryindexes cleaned before tests + Disk Cleanup

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I’m in Beta … my version 1.37.18.0
Updates from Content Manager

Game Services version 21.89.21001.0

No problem! Thanks you MS/Asobo.

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I’ve made the following backups so I can compare config files:

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15,68 GB @ 35ish Mbits/s : Holland

Started 17:01 local time, 1 hour later and still downloading

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Had no problems 500-600mbps took about 3min to download and about 5mins max

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Pretty sure my download was only about 7gb

Can you favorite aircraft now?

I think this was mentioned as a feature on this update.

I have 90, which is really good for my 100 line.
Haven’t seen the in game download speeds yet. They are usually way lower

I started the sim twice now and no update downloads.

Go to content manager and see if there’s some updates over there. also if you were on the beta program, it won’t update the exe, only packages in the content manager…

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