Prevent the flight planner from reshuffling the plan after adding or changing a runway, approach, SID or STAR

Hi, thank you very much for these open words! I was also at LFPG, the capital airport of France, again today. A few taxiways have been repaired by now, but there are still enough to trip up the plane.
Oh and then one more thing: what happened to the PAPI lights??? You can only see them in the light about 1-2 nm before landing. In the dark, half of the runway lights (e.g. LEMD 32R) disappear???
A hint! It would be very helpful if the developers would address all the bugs instead of constantly bringing something new, which is then only half good! And the biggest thing is that new bugs are added. By the way, who designed the moon? It must have been someone with a penchant for werewolves, or someone who permanently runs around with lenses in his glasses that make everything smaller.
There are even more exciting topics that could be used to demonstrate one’s will to create flawlessly functioning software.

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Oh please yes. I just downloaded this horrible piece of jank and have been constantly troubleshooting something. If it’s not horrible download speeds, black PFDs, invert mouse that doesn’t work (yeah, did everything correctly, cockpit freelook just won’t invert), it’s flight plans you prepared in 3rd party app with meticulous attention to detail, and then you just change one tiny thing (like start on an apron instead of on runway, some of us like the immersion), and MEEP MEEP, Microsoft ■■■■■ up the entire plan. Lovely. So yes. The flight planner needs A LOT of work. As does pretty much everything else apart the graphics maybe. Why couldn’t they just license the photogrammetry to Laminar and be done with it


You can do this on the Working Title CJ4 with the Rockwell Collins FMS. You can import directly from SimBrief. I use Little NavMap and export the flight plan to MSFS .pln format and it will also import that. I’m not aware of any other aircraft that can do this. There are still some of the same gremlins that others talk about in this thread.

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Through mods or 3rd party aircraft/avionics I can load a flight plan from a file for just about any aircraft. Although I have gotten used to entering them manually into the avionics as well if they are not overly complex.

That paired with using Pilot2ATC means I no longer use the world screen flight planner. I only load up my starting airport and parking spot.

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It’s still reshuffling on my end after updating to GOTY edition even though it’s supposed to be fixed according to the release notes

The former reshuffling seems to be optional after the update,

On the ATC window there is an option to request flight plan IFR clearance after any change in the MCDU/FMS and if you use that option the reshuffling behavior happens, also ATC asks you to descend to a ridiculous low altitude, let’s say you were cruising at FL370 and ATC assigns 11000 ft, Whaaaat?

Roger! Still happening to me too after update in spite of 11/18/21 Development Update showing it being “Fixed in SU7”.

Case in point: Entered FP; all good. Then selected Gate I wanted to depart from and MSFS then implemented a new/changed plan plan upon my clicking “Set as Depature” for the gate. Ugh!!! All the work out the window!

SOS! Mayday!

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How hard can it be for developers to just disable auto regenerating the flight plan once existing flight plan is imported and already loaded into CDU??? The use of Simbrief and Navigraph is useless as long as this bug is not solved.

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This issue has been ongoing since release I was hoping this would be addressed in SU7 but still an issue, if you selected the gate or parking from the actual drop down this would allow the change without the reshuffle but not even that is working any longer any change reshuffles the entire flight plan. please fix this ASAP

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I’ve been playing for about 3 months now. After dealing with this that whole time I am actually surprised to see that this has been an issue since launch. It’s such a big deal for any kind of immersion you’d think it would be fixed by now. Honestly I wish I would have done more research when I was looking for what sim to buy as x plane seems like the better sim atm. However I’m already invested in msfs. Hopelessly waiting on the many immersive airliners under development with no release date but “due to come out by the end of the year!” You got a month left. And even when they do this flight planning issue ruins it. For a while if you picked a gate from the drop down menu it wouldn’t change anything then the GOTY update came and now it’s broke again. I 100% agree with the many people who have said this in this thread over and over, please please work on improving the game instead of adding to it. I get it the new content makes the money but I assure you if you fix the many issues with this game you will get more players. If anyone from Microsoft or Asobo actually reads this. Take that to your next staff meeting or something. This is a big issue that has been going on SINCE RELEASE?? Come on now really? Very disappointing. Rant over.

Just to throw in two more cents


flight planner:
departure set,
arrival set,
select some type of routing, IFR or VFR.
try to correct by adding or deleting waypoints

This is about the adding of
 type in the search box, the map will center on the WP, but not display it.

Search for it a second time, the WP will show up and allow adding it.

Has been doing this 
 in my sim 
 for a long time.

Roger! This has been my “work around” when needed too.

I’ve found the “reshuffling” bug to be random with varied inputs in my case. Sometimes it will work if I select the gate in the drop down, other times if I click the gate on the map. Other times, no matter what i do, I am unable to override.

Experimenting fpr a while now with this issue I found to make it work better but still not solved.
I start by selecting departure ramp from dropdown, Dont select anything more, just click Fly now button.
Then head to Simbrief and generate flight plan with SID and STAR. Load it into FMC without changing any SID or STAR. And it should work maybe for 75-80% correctly for the most of times. Let me know if it works.

Even if Microsoft claims this is fixed after sim update 7, it is FALSE, it continues to reshuffle the entire flight plan after any modification of most elements like the gate. It is unacceptable that this vital part of the simulator is so horribly bad. It is useless to use this game!!

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I confirm, this is not fixed.

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Confirmed, I’m still having this problem also. It’s actually worse now after the ‘fix’. Prior to the ‘fix’ you could select from the drop down list of gates as a work around. That no longer works as doing so tends to mess up the SID in most cases.

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Agreed, it‘s really frustrating right now. The whole flightplanning with eg simbrief is useless if you want to start at the gate and not at the runway. Sure, you could load the flightplan while being already in the plane, but atc will then send you to waypoints you haven‘t planned. The whole thung is still a big mess and i also think they should work on get rid of the bugs instead of adding more stuff (and break things that worked better before). I seriously think they have an issue with their testing of releases (at least regression testing is definately not a high prio
).

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Is there a plan for getting this fixed? It appears Asobo tried to fix this and claimed they did, but it’s still buggy.

There is a workaround.
You can edit the plan, and change the departure location from the runway to the parking spot you chose.
First prepare your flight with the simulator, and select your gate, and save the file. Then do your flight on SimBrief and save it. Open both flight plans with a text editor (notepad work perfectly) and change your departure position in the flight generated by SimBrief with the location generated by the simulator. As far as I remember you only have to change 2 pieces of information, removing the departure runway, and adding the gate location (make the first waypoint of the flight looking pretty similar to the one of the generated by the simulator). Now save the modified file and go back to the simulator and load it. Your plane will be at your gate, and your flight plan will be the one generated by SimBrief.

Of course, it would be a lot better if you did not have to do all this and the simulator was supporting inserting a gate to a current flight without changing the whole flight.

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Hi, I believe there is a shorter way to insert a gate or apron parking into a flight plan. This is by selecting an apron parking space or gate from the pull-down menu on the departure location page and not from the world map.

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