haven’t been posting here (and flying) for a long time. This is mostly due to hardware limitations. I need a good pair of pedals which I refuse to pay 300€ Plus for and my current processor makes bigger sceneries a huge let down.
Right now I am sporting a 5800X, together with a 6900XT, 32 Gigs of Ram and a Gigabyte X570S board. So I stumbled over this offer for a 5800X3D for under 300€. And after some considering I bought it.
At the same time, already the next hardware generation is out. But buying a 7800X3D requires a new board and thus also new RAM, which both are currently pervertedly expensive if you ask me. And it also requires me to remove and restore the whole OS.
I am still asking myself if this was a good idea. But especially for FS2020 I was around 90% of the time limited by main thread. And the 6900XT can handle MSFS magnificently, even on a UW setup with 49" monitor.
Personally, I think you made a good choice. The -X3D CPUs are far more powerful than you might think.
Any time someone on a i9-13900k or non-X3D Ryzen complains of stutters, I can say ‘not with my CPU’.
Yes, I can still overload the chip, but I’m rocking the Fenix A320 into iniBuilds Heathrow (everything turned on), Orbx London Landmarks pack, plenty of AI traffic, TLOD 180-200 on a 3440*1440p ultrawide monitor without using Nvidia Frame Generation.
Thank you for your feedback. Yes, I really hope I can unclog the 6900XT with that upgrade as I am seeing more and more current or upcoming games to be heavily CPU-bottlenecked - a thing that I never expected to happen. Back in my young days of gaming, the CPU was secondary, the GPU the golden path to go.
It’s no panacea, but you’ll be able to run higher settings/more detail than on your previous CPU. Plus there’s something about AMD CPUs and GPUs being made to work better together – can’t recall the feature off the top of my head.
The gold standard for gaming is the 7800X3D, but IMO, the 5800X3D is such a ‘cheap’ and easy upgrade that it would be almost criminal not to get it!
It’s called Resizable BAR iirc. Don’t know the magic behind it. My settings are already quite high. Last year I transferred my whole system onto 2 NVMEs. People normally say for games this won’t bring any benefit. But especially for stuff like FS2020, it improves performance drastically. I also lately watch a lot of videos on how to find the best settings for several games. And it turns out that there are many games which consume a lot of resources for little to zero change in picture quality. Can only recommend that to everyone.
I upgraded from a 5800X to a 5800X3D.
I’m glad I did. If I had to quantify I’d say I got a small but measurable increase in FPS, and a more important considerable improvement in latency.
I think the 96MB on-die cache is a very good thing for this simgame.
I’ll add an aside: Buying good rudder pedals (MFG Crosswind) was one of the best investments I’ve made in my modest home cockpit. Expensive, yes, but IMHO, well worth the money.
Let’s see how the performance jump turns out for me.
About the pedals: I know what you mean and I know you are totally and 100% correct. Especially since I also started to get deeper into DCS, I noticed how subpar my TFRPs are,even if I modded everything I could. What I miss the most is precision and successive restistance.
On the other hand: this is 300€ for a one-trick pony and this is what hurts. Also that there are no other devices in the price-range of 150 to 250€ bothers me a lot, except the VKB pedals which are too simple if you want toe brakes. That’s also the reason why you can find these very often secondhand but not the MFGs, the Virpils or Thrustmaster TPR
I just upgraded to a second M2 990 pro and got rid of all my SSDs. I bought it on a whim as the 4TB drives were in a black Friday deal. The speed difference is noticeable to me. I am on a clean OS also which could have something to do with it, but I am thinking not so really. I always keep my system clean of bloat.
Having gone back to playing Wow, I see myself loading into dungeon at least 5-7 seconds in front of everyone else. A lot of the time much, much more. This is on an AM4 system (5950) with a 3090.
As for your 5800x3d, I don’t think you regret it. This gen is near its end. That means you will not consider next gen Ryzen. Your next upgrade will be 3 generations higher than where you are now, if you buy new ofc.
Was an excellent idea. My 6800XT started really working after I dropped in my 5800X3D. Before that it just sat there. I actually had to cap framerate to half of the refresh rate because the GPU was working so much that it started to work at 85C, and I preferred to run cooler (and I don’t need 90fps for FS). Before that processor I never knew what the 6800XT was capable of. Congrats.
As a side note, I strongly suggest to use PBO2 Tuner with a -30 curve on all cores and limit PPT at 95, TDC at 95 and EDC at 90 (don’t touch the rest). Runs easily 20C cooler, gets like 100 more points at Cinebench, and it’s totally stable (check running a 30 min Cinebench R23 test)
Resizable Bar is independent of the application and requires no special application support. AMD refers to it as SmartAccess Memory and you can turn it on/verify it is on via the AMD Adrenalin SW once you have it enabled in the bios along with Above 4G Decoding.
I would have gone all the way and purchase the 7800X3D. I upgraded my hardware from the 5800X3D to the 7800X3D and the performance improvement was very noticeable, especially if injecting AI airline traffic, but more important, the sim runs now very smoothly with my RTX 3080 GPU which wasn’t the case with the 5800X3D.
Yes, you need a new motherboard and memory, but the cost of AM5 motherboards and DDR 5 memory came down a lot and the additional benefit is that you have an upgrade path for several years to come. Also, I didn’t have to re-install windows 10.
The 7800X3D together with an ASRock B650M Pro RS Motherboard (with 3 M.2 sockets), G Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 CL30-38-38-96 1.35V 32GB AMD EXPO and a be quiet! Pure Rock 2 FX CPU Cooler came to A$ 1150 (Euro 700). After selling my 5800X3D CPU, motherboard, cooler and DDR4 memory for A$ 700 (Euro 430), the upgrade wasn’t this much at A$ 450 (Euro 275). I guess this can be still an option in the future for you.
Dude, for sure the 7800 is safer to use for future fun. But 700 to 800€ is still a huge difference to 300€. If it matters, the only thing I really regret is that I didn’t kick out the old 5800 earlier. I am going to wait for the next or other two generations. Since 2020, the world has been an ongoing mess and the pile of s*** called society has become higher and higher. So I hope for much calmer waters and answers to the biggest problems we have now. This might also positively affect the luxury of playing our beloved games, though the future looks dire.
I’ve been nothing but extremely happy with my 5800X3D. It’s almost as if this processor was tailor-made for FS2020. I am only running a 5700XT - with a newer generation video card like yours you’re going to be in good shape for quite a while. Since FS2024 is going to be largely compatible with FS2020 add-ons, I think both of us are going to be in good shape for a few more years at least.
and this is what hurts. Also that there are no other devices in the price-range of 150 to 250€ bothers me a lot, except the VKB pedals which are too simple if you want toe brakes. That’s also the reason why you can find these very often secondhand but not the MFGs, the Virpils or Thrustmaster TPR
