Recommend a GA aircraft

The more I fly the Bonanza G36, the more I like it. It’s pretty well ticked all my boxes now that I’ve got the hang of the aircraft.

The only weird thing is the engine sounds sound weird. Periodically, the sound gets really loud like a jet engine just started, and then a couple of minutes later, it goes back to the normal sounds. Not a major issue, just an observation. Not sure if that’s normal or not. I’m not familiar with the sounds a G36 makes.

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Fly the Bonanza a lot, both standard and turbo versions and have never heard anything odd in the noises, whether I use a headset or on speakers. Does this happen any other time, for instance, other aircraft or even other programmes incorporating sound?

It doesn’t happen on anything else. I’m starting to suspect it’s part of the engine sounds. It kind of sounds like a turbine starting up, and winding down periodically.

I also fly the normally aspirated Bonanza a lot and I have never heard anything similar to what you are mentioning. Other mods perhaps?

Try the Beechcraft Kingair. It’s easy to fly and the Flight computer is fairly simple to operate.

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Check to see if you have Multiplayer enabled… as others have pointed out, for some time now another players engine sounds will suddenly appear in my cockpit as if they were my own. See this thread for more details/context.

I’ve disabled Multiplayer and have not had any of the issues you described since. Maybe check your settings are report back? :slight_smile:

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I started FS2020 with the Cessna 172, then switched to the Beechcraft G36, but after switching to the Diamond DA62X (free mod) with the Garmin 1000 NXI free mod in the Marketplace, I have never looked back:

  • Cruise at 150 knots at 70% throttle
  • Great views out of the windows
  • Twin engines with push-button start
  • Retractable landing gear
  • Seamless auto-pilot with the G1000 NXI

I just published this video I made 6 months ago that shows this aircraft doing all sorts of things that would not be tolerated in real life, but can be fun to do in a sim. :

I just noticed YouTube is still processing the HD version.

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If you enjoy flying Cessnas, I can heartily recommend Carenado’s C337H Skymaster. View while flying (and landing) is excellent, and while more complex, seems to tick many of the boxes you have specified.

A bonus: I have opted in to the SU9 BETA release and the C337 seems to operate without any noticeable glitches. If you also add the PMS50 GNS530 upgrade to your Community folder you’ll have a solid cross-country flier. (The GNS530 upgrade has been hotfixed to work with SU9.)

The C337 is beautifully crafted, is priced quite well, and is available for purchase through the MSFS Marketplace.

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The Just Flight Arrow III meets your requirements, it has better visuals than the Mooney (uou can see a lot more) and you have the reassurance that it’s one of the most popular planes in the sim, and also it is said to be very close to the real thing. I’m not a pilot either and have tried to focus on one plane & really learn it. You can have the free GTN750 avionics too, which is much better than the G1000 (IMHO), plus retractable gear. The AP is a bit quirky, and it has altitude hold which is nice - plus it’s very well documented.

I am not a pilot, but I spent a lot of time in the Mooney when the game first came out because it was one of only 2 aircraft you could buy on the Marketplace for a very long time. I think I have about 100 hours flying the Mooney in the sim. I also never had any trouble with the engine.

The basic idea is that you have 2 numbers, CHT (Cylinder Head Temperature) and EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) that you need to be aware of. If the CHT gets too high, it can damage the engine. The Mooney has a CHT gauge that has a yellow area at around 420 degrees and a red line at 460 degrees. I find that 380 degrees is about normal for cruise flight.

CHT is labelled 4 in the above image. CHT rises rapidly in 2 phases of flight: during takeoff and when you are flying slow with full flaps for landing. Luckily, you don’t really have to manage the lean (red) lever much during these phases of flight. CHT will creep down after you level off and reach high airspeeds.

The Manifold Pressure lever (black) is straightforward. It controls the manifold pressure, labelled 1 in the image above. This is your power, it’s probably what you call the Throttle when using the Cessna 172.

The RPM (blue) lever is also straightforward. It controls the RPM, labelled 2 in the image above. Make sure it’s full RPM for takeoff. I lower the RPM by 100 or so after I have climbed a ways. It is my understanding that RPM needs to be changed for noise reduction at certain airports. Actual pilots would know more about the correct procedures with this lever. You can probably set it to max and ignore it.

The mixture (red) lever is the tricky lever. If your engine has very low power, you might have the wrong mixture setting. As you gain altitude, you need to fiddle with this lever periodically.

The EGT indicator, labelled 3 in the above image, will change as you lean the engine. After reaching say 3000 feet or so, I start fiddling with the lean. As you pull the lever out, you will see a rapid rise in EGT, until it peaks and reverses direction. Pull too far, and the engine will be deprived of fuel and begin to lose power.

The point at which the EGT reverses direction is call the Peak. There are 2 points that pilots use, 50 degrees lean of peak, and 50 degrees rich of peak. I usually run 50 degrees rich of peak because it allows the CHT to cool off. I don’t run lean of peak, it saves fuel but the CHT rises (or cools off more slowly). To get to rich of peak (ROP), you pull the lean lever until the EGT reverses direction. Then you push it back in until you are about 50-100 degrees below the peak after it has crossed the peak a second time (going the other way).

You want to minimize the time you spend exactly at peak because it can cause the CHT to rise rapidly and damage the engine.

When I am done climbing I make sure the mixture, rpm, and manifold pressure levers are where I want them. Then I forget about them. When you descend you generally push the mixture in over time.

Like I said I am not a pilot. If any actual pilots or mechanics are reading this please let me know if I am wrong about anything.

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Not to be harsh but if you can afford that good hardware then it should be no surprise some of the suggestions are not cheap here (I have not read through this thread yet).
Carenado planes are decent. I have the Seneca but the engines and window anti-shield ruin the view. Otherwise the plane is ok.
They have another twin that seems ok as well.
BUT…
If you really want something, enjoy it…then do yourself a favor and get something has has higher fidelity (more than a Carenado).
Get yourself a Just Flight Arrow preferably the turbo version. It’s the same but higher performance.
They are easy to start and work really well with the Alpha/Bravo set up. Love starting the engine with the alpha!

What checks all your boxes (except the autopilot) with a big red Sharpie? The Caproni C-22J from Mario Noriega Designs. It is a jet, but a light jet and one that is very simple to start and fly. The visibility is awesome and the jet has a terrific flight model that makes it a joy to fly. The avionics are limited but you have VOR/DME so you can navigate with ease if you are comfortable using that system. The speed range is wonderful. If you throttle back to 67% or so, it will slip along at 130kts. If you feel getting there, 87% throttle will push you to a crushing speed of 230kts or so. The approach speed of around 85kts is similar to many turboprops and the aircraft is comfortable to operate out of a wide range of airports and runway lengths. The jet is to me, the perfect GA cruising aircraft. It’s not a backcountry bush plane but if you want to cruise the coast of California and see the sights, it is perfect. One last thing, it is $10 on the marketplace. Here is a link to a good review. Cheers and happy flying.

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Oh wow I love this jet.
Such a gem.

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Since i cant get the arrows on xbox, i switched from the bonanza to the baron and never looked back. I keep the throttles linked so my throttle quadrant ‘matches’ the number of levers, and grow tired of keeping two levers in the exact position. No real benefit like water handling and ground ops are not that taxing to ‘require’ independent control.

Sound is much less oppressive than a single and has the chops to just get it done in the -170 KN piston class. For a first party aircraft, it really is just an honest aircraft. A little more personality than the modern plastic craft and detailed enough with stressed skin and no additional fps hogging overdone detailing.

Kind of a happy spot because if i want complexity I just move right into the all conquering TBM for a personal GA king of kings, being there’s no TP Lancair hot rod.

You should definately use the Carenado Seneca and the Carenado Skymaster! (Of course with my cockpit overhauls :wink: ).
Superb quality all rivets nuts and bolts are fully moddeled in 3D, and the cool-looking analogue system gauges in the cockpit work absolute flawless and accurate.

The Mooney M20 has a texture bug around the yoke steering link on the instrument panel (visible under various lighting conditions, sorry I am currently not on my private computer and have no screenshots to show) but I can assure you the Seneca and the Skymaster are wonderful looking without any further texture bugs.

Kodiak is the best GA of MSFS now I think

You should give it a chance to fly

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The cockpit instrumentation of the Kodiak is not accurate because there are no correct engine parameter labels on Garmin 1000 screen. As long as an aircraft is not patched to zero-compromise-perfection I am not going to fly it. :slight_smile:

In which case there is no aircraft in any flight-sim you can possibly fly.

If you believe any PC simulator aircraft in any sim offer “zero-compromise-perfection” you have been conned by clever marketing people.

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The Aerosoft CRJ is almost zero-compromise. But of course because of strictest DRM and everything closed-source (they have simply no access to the weather engine) they have no chance to implement a weather radar to fully perfect their precious airplane.

Hi,
You’ll get as many responses as there are aircraft. Each to his own.

My money is on the Cessna 414, and the Cessna Longitude. But that’s just me.

Might do a survey of aircraft with a G1000 in MSFS 2020 and pick from that selection.

As for “not tweaking engines” not sure what you mean by that.

There is a difference between a “game” and a “simulation”.

Although MSFS 2020 is supposed to be a simulation, you can fix the settings for “easy” which takes a lot of the burdens away from those less willing to go for the reality gusto.

If you are looking for less complexity, stay away from constant speed props, retractable gear, multiple engines, cold & dark start ups, etc.

This sim can be made to accommodate you quite easily in those regards.