Yes I agree with you, v1.0 seemed more functional.
Just Flight if developed internally by their team like the PA28 series. Yes.
I’d love to see the PA38 Tomahawk come over, and the “study level” 152 they’ve developed with Thranda.
I’d probably go for the Kodiak from Thranda too, right out of gate.
‘Well - I think the rapid attempts to fix it and expand to the float version based on feedback is commendable.
I think they’ll get there. This is their first MSFS release so I am going to cut em some slack.’
Agree entirely. But that said, at the end of the day, we are their customers and we do expect, perhaps, more of a working product. As DrCreamDream said in an earlier post ‘Really poor to be honest, at least with the v1.0 it was functional! I was thoroughly enjoying this aircraft until now’ . And so was I.
Full marks to AH for releasing two patches within 24 hours but they seem to have taken a step backwards. Wouldn’t it be better to announce to the community that you see the problems and are working at a fix? Am sure most people would be forgiving and tolerant of this.
This is my first purchase from AH and so I’m very keen to see how this pans out.
I must admit that after looking at their website (AH), I was rather surprised that they didn’t post any video clips of the C-140, starting, taxiing, taking-off, et al, and must be honest in saying that I almost stalled at purchasing this product. It only got home by some of the posts by AH themselves in this thread who showed a determination to get things fixed. I do hope that they will fulfill this commitment.
which is why I said this in the same paragraph…
Sorry, I’m noob in this matter, could someone kindly enlighten me what exactly means “study level” regarding an MSFS addon? Is it a personal pov or there are a list of predetermined characteristics an addon must to have to be called “study level”? (if there is a list, pls point me to it)
1000 Thx)
That question could be the topic of a thread all unto itself. ![]()
To me what it means is this: all functions of the aircraft being modelled work correctly, insofar as they can work within the scope of a simulator. Perhaps most important - to me anyway - is that the aircraft “flies by the book.” That is, the model should behave as the Pilots’ Operating Handbook dictates.
The best example we have so far in MSFS is the PMDG DC-6. Even the circuit breakers work correctly. It’s a good, solid, classic example of “study level.”
A real simple way to put it is this: you have to study the manual(s) and the documentation to achieve a level of proficiency operating the aircraft.
Sorry, I’m noob in this matter, could someone kindly enlighten me what exactly means “study level” regarding an MSFS addon? Is it a personal pov or there are a list of predetermined characteristics an addon must to have to be called “study level”? (if there is a list, pls point me to it)
There is no formal definition. It’s a term that gets thrown around a lot to basically mean “a very very detailed and authentic replication of all the real aircraft’s systems.” The idea is that you could use the sim to “study” to fly the real thing.
To the extent the term has any usefulness at all, it’s with more complex aircraft such as modern airliners. I don’t think “study-level” is productive in discussing this particular addon. We’re talking about a plane where fuel mixture control was optional, for heaven’s sake. It’s a pretty basic aircraft with pretty basic systems, we just need them all to function as they should. It’s basic enough there is no excuse for them not working as they should after a few patches.
Hear, hear.
@Seven7Tango @MiddcoreGaming Thank you guys! Noted 
Yep, the initial release had some minor bugs and had a few annoying issues some (like the generator) effecting actual flight but most cosmetic. Nice plane really. I spent quite a few hours in it, sure you needed to either start on the runway or use an external generator switch, and things like the backwards mixture were odd, but it flew well and was fun.
Since then, each update has fixed some of the minor issues while making the aircraft less flyable each time.
You get the impression that the negative reception to the initial issues has flipped the developer into some sort of panic rushing out fix after fix that are just making matters worse.
Yay !!! My spats work ! But now my NAV lights are now ghostly apparitions and the right and left interior lights are burned out. Anyone have any spare bulbs or do I need to click on the tundra tires first?
they are still working on it - there are some issues still but I’m pretty sure they’ll be fixed in the near term
here are a couple of quick corrections you can make (if you are familiar with the folder structure and know what you’re doing) for the lights and engine power - but note: you will need to register at SOH to download the uprated engine .cfg file
Cessna 140 by Aeroplane Heaven released - Page 2 (sim-outhouse.com)
Thanks for that link, the two config file changes have made all the difference, it is all flyable and happy again.
I am sure they will get it sorted, the worry is they may lose customers for what is in essence a very good aircraft with lots of personality and character with all this messing about.
What amazes me is the talent of the enthusiasts involved in flight simulation. We are just days past the initial release of this aircraft, with initially reported problems already solved by the community.
A tip of the cap to the individual(s) who corrected the issues with the little Cessna.
Well done.
Baz or Bazzar is leadman / shotcaller at Aeroplane Heaven and he posted those fixes at SOH - all I did was link them here. But yes - on the whole - the community is pretty amazing too…
(FWIW I am heywooood at SOH - a lowly pleeb over there just as here)
That speaks highly of Bazzar at AH to push out those fixes on a commonly frequented site… kudos to him for doing that.
yes - I imagine he would have got them up here too unless it just got too late where he is…I don’t know exactly where he is - but his Avatar says Australia
it’s a word which has no official definition.
It supposldly means that you can use a plane to study real flying. But that’s somewhat debatable.
Best you can do with a computer program is to pratctice procedures from what I know.
Am i right in thinking this plane is just plain slow, and cant really climb at more than 500fpm? and is stuck around 60 knts? Its very slow… I wouldn’t feel safe in it IRL. Help me to understand…I feel like I am doing something wrong?
What’s your max RPM?