[RELEASED] Wilga 35/80 Series | Got Friends

There’s already ‘toggle altitude’ and ‘toggle attitude’ key bindings in MSFS, all you need do is assign them to a single key or key combination.

I just forgot to switch on the Starter/Spark Shower on the 80X version and it started anyway. Is that supposed to be possible?

And if so, what’s the purpose of the Spark Shower if not required for starting the engine?

The Wilga has a tendency to roll.
Get real!
Live with it as the real live pilots do.
This plane is meant to be flown by Stick and Rudder, so you have a little work to do.

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FIrst of all; did you turn engine realism on on the clipboard?

It shouldn’t start without the spark shower on. If you have a button bound to engine start that might ignore the realism settings though. Are you using a bound button, or pressing the start button with your mouse?

The Wilga was designed for towing gliders and parachute jumping, hence the lack of directional trim.

Yup, engine realism was turned on.

I do the engine start with cockpit switches and the mouse only, except for the prop and the throttle lever (I want to experience the intricacies of an aircraft instead of doing everything with the exact same hardware controls for every aircraft).

EDIT: on the very same flight, after shutting down the engine, I do need to switch on Spark Shower to start the engine again. Apparently being able to do it only was possible on the first engine start after starting the flight. Perhaps the switch starts in an On state, even though the switch is visually off and only is Off for real when I flip the switch to off?

EDIT 2: started a new flight and the engine started again without Spark Shower. Then I shut down the engine, by simply pulling the mixture, and tried to start it again by pushing in the mixture and making sure it was still primed but not switching Spark Shower to On and Off again. Still no start. Then I switched Spark Shower On and the engine started.

It seems there is indeed something wrong with the inital state of the switch when starting a new flight.

Understood but not everyone has the dedicated keys to bind, and in my opinion most if not all functions should be available with a mouse click.

On that note I recall starting the engine without the compressed air being open. It was a hot start so wasn’t sure if it was working as indended. I was under the impression the air assists the battery in turning the prop; and without that assistance the prop needed to be hand-turned.

Okay, I just tried it with all 8 variants. Not needing the Spark Shower for the first engine start after beginning a fresh flight only happens with the 35X and the 80X variants.

All the other ones behave as expected. Haven’t tried yet, if the same goes for the Starter Air.

Are you sure that in real word Wilga has tendency to roll right even in the cruise power?

maybe one for @GotGravel

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Great – thanks for expanding on the details of your thinking about trimming for straight and level! It’s kind of funny/odd that Asobo’s ‘auto rudder’ only really cheats by zeroing torque (rather than actually applying an auto rudder input), but I guess that’s a very simplified method. Even if the real plane has no rudder or aileron trim, I’ll go ahead and use it to make cruising easier.

Oh, and I did pick up the plane and am loving it so far. This Wilga is really nice (I admit it had to grow on me with that quirky design :slight_smile: ), but also you (and your team) being so responsive and involved in the community is a strong selling point. Thanks!

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I like doing something similar…

Left Fuel Tank: 100%
Right Fuel Tank: 50%

(:

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I just did that and it worked. Thank you. : )

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Question, does the Wilga state save how much fuel you end with? Also, if you set chocks when you exit, will they be there when you begin? (State save clipboard options?) Thanks.

Sure. Obv. it’s not gonna be perfect. Gets some terms wrong. Like in the part about leaning it uses “altitude adjustment” instead of “mixture”. Who knows. Better than nothing, or paying some website to literally ship you a CD with a PDF on it for $15.

I’m just kinda surprised it gives no Vx or Vy speeds and just says to take-off climb at ~62 knots with a reduced power setting until you reach cruise, which is kinda strange and seems low. Maybe it’s because I’m flying the higher horsepower 80P instead of the 35A which is what the manual is. It also says the plane won’t roll for taxi until 1300 RPM but the 80P starts rolling at like 8-900.

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No. It doesn’t save fuel state. Always starts with 50% tanks. It always starts with chocks & pitot cover enabled, even if you don’t turn them on at shutdown. Without chocks it might roll away since there’s no parking brake. I think the only saved state in the plane is the Engine Realism setting and wayyy up thread they basically say state saving is mostly avoided because it causes lots of bugs and unexpected behaviors.

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I really hope that at least the will be able to do a cold start option, so then when starting on a departure that only have the runway selection in MSFS (no parking spot on some airport), we will be at least able to start cold and dark. It really break my immersion when I start and everything is fired up, feel like arcadish. I just love to push, turn knobs… Lol!

: )

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Thanks Jigsaw, issue with the Spark Shower switch confirmed, already working on a fix which will be included in the coming v1.0.2 update. Oxygen supply is required as expected, no issues there I believe.

Btw unlike as mentioned in a Wilga review I’ve seen recently (forgot which one), you typically do not need to top up oxygen manually. Oxygen will be used for every start attempt yes, and 10 or less PSI will be insufficient for a successful start. However, it is the running engine itself that will top up supply over a 10 to 20 minute period in the real wilga. We simulated that as well. That is why you should also not close your oxygen valve after a start, which would prevent the engine from topping up. The valve is only closed when you have sufficient / max oxygen again.

We only included the “insta” top-up option in the clipboard in case you’ve really run out due to 6 to 10 unsuccessful ground starts (can happen if you forget about priming and keep starting for example).

Since I’m on the topic of oxygen starts…the novel compressed air solution employed by the Wilga is to make sure it always can start, no matter how cold it is (cold batteries drain fast plus spark plug cables pass less current in the cold I think … my car had those same issues in the past).

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In addition, in the coming update you will be able to do windmill restarts. This will require a minimum speed of 80kts indicated.

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