I also do not regret my purchase, but I would probably not be buying from Wing42 again. I would be worried about a major bug being present on their next release followed by months of radio silence.
Whatever is going on their end, I hope everything is okay but I think this dev is now on my ‘do not buy’ list. Again, not for this aircraft which is incredible, but out of concern for future support on future releases.
They were never that communicative after the Bleriot release either.
Continual updates from devs about $20 products is nothing I care about, in fact I prefer they work on bugs or new projects rather than waste hours a day arguing with bored people on the forums. But yes if it bothers you try and find a more chatty dev.
I always assumed it was because they seem to outsource a lot of their work and probably have little to say until everything is back and ready to go.
Which particular bugs are causing issues for you ?
I am only aware of the mislabelled temp gauge. The engines needing 30% windup to start reliably and the out of fuel on respawn after crashing seem to be design decisions not bugs.
Yes it is these, particularly the temp gauge. Not saying anything game breaking but a bit of aftercare goes a long way. Even if they said ‘these are design decisions and not bugs’ that’s fair enough.
Another bug which was present on release was the no windup sound on the right engine (may be left engine, it’s been a while).
As I said before, the aircraft is enjoyable to fly and works so I am not trying to put anyone off buying it - I am simply saying I am not a fan of the complete lack of communication concerning bugs/alledged bugs.
I agree. But not being vocal about if they’re going to fix the bugs or when they’re going to fix the bugs isn’t very transparent. So I’d prefer some sign of life from the devs.
What if they do neither? The missing wind up wheel sound and the faulty oil temp label should have been fixed days after the problem was evident … and not NOT BE fixed months later.
So he is not communicating and not working on fixes. I guess that’s a “win/win” situation in your book?
Perhaps you were being sarcastic and I completely missed the boat there, but, I would say that a missing sound you’d never hear in the real plane over the din everything else going on isn’t important to him. It can be important to you if you want, that’s cool. It’s just not likely a problem that’s worth thinking about to him. He’s just here to fly.
Personally, I didn’t realize the sound was missing. Oops…
It’s the wind up sound for starting the engine, there is no din, unless you use a screaming passenger mod for your own pleasure.
And yes … if there is a very audible wind up sound before the start of the port engine, there definitely should be an audible wind up sound for the starboard engine as well. Especially when that is the first engine that you start and it’s quiet otherwise.
But now I am wondering if people are being funny or if I am missing something? Why exactly are people rooting for broken features and lack of customer support? Is that the new gold standard?
Wing42 stated they were releasing this at half the normal price as an experiment and if sales go well they will use a similar pricing for the upcoming Vega project which sounds amazing.
Personally … I want my half price Vega
So people trying to discourage other people buying this amazing product because they were not getting enough dev updates about what are silly very minor faults like the numbers are wrong on an engine gauge and one of the crank handles has lost it’s sound was annoying me.
I will stop replying to this conversation at this point and ignore any further comments.
HINTS for new users …
the starting flywheel becomes available to engage quite early, but just like real life, if you wait a bit longer (usually to about 30% on the assistants picture) before hitting the engage button you will get vastly more reliable starting
do not forget to pump fuel pressure back up before engaging the flywheel
if an engine has NEVER started since install flip to a weather setting with a much higher outside temp to simulate parking in a heated hanger or preheating the engine oil and try. Once you do get the one successful start, all future starts, even in the cold, will be easier as state saving remembers the now warm oil. This is realistic, back in the day it was even common to preheat the engine oil in a radial before starting.
if you crash you need to refill the tanks when you respawn, they were emptied while the plane was being repaired
the oil temp gauges do indeed read wrong (the devs discussed it in this thread back in April) ignore them and instead keep oil pressure between 60 and 100 . If pressure is too high you need to warm the engine, if pressure is too low you need to cool the engine
So people trying to discourage other people buying this amazing product because they were not getting enough dev updates about what are silly very minor faults like the numbers are wrong on an engine gauge and one of the crank handles has lost it’s sound was annoying me.
The problem isn’t “not getting enough dev updates” but getting no dev updates whatsoever. It’s one thing to not make the aircraft into a “live service”, which is fine, but they put out the aircraft and haven’t released any update for about half a year now? There is a third party mod on flightsim.to that fixes the oil temperature, surely the developer could easily correct issues like this?
~20$/€ is still far from being a freeware project, there is still an expectation of some post-release support.
Yeah, and the sounds also do not work. I fly with headphone simulation on and have to disable it every time I tr to use the Boeing. Which is not much anymore due to its bugs. What is up with the hardcore shilling for a product with obvious flaws? Oh it is cheap, does not need to be corrected seems very, very wrong to me.
Further, the people acting like this is normal and take the “ he’s one man and he’s too busy to drop a word “ seem to totally discount his posting cadence on Facebook, here, twitter, podcasts, his website before April of this year. Suddenly he simply disappeared. My money is he was sued after release for some part of the project and can’t talk until it’s progressed. This is total speculation of course, but seems more likely than he’s laying on a pile of cash and doesn’t care or that he’s just too busy coding to say hello and eat food. I also doubt he’s fighting in Ukraine.
You nailed it with the comment on the comment cadence prior to release. The stark contrast between before and after is remarkable. From daily comments to crickets. Who knows.
Also, the aircraft has issues beyond a simple gauge label. We have discussed the oil pressure indication issues at great lengths in this thread as well as several others. None of these issues have been so much as acknowledged.
The bottom line is that the aircraft can be flown by simply ignoring the issues because it is a sim and not a real flying machine that would actually require maintenance to correct the issues before further flight. But we all have different levels of comfort and acceptance of issues. What bothers some may seem trivial to others. I think that above all, we must not criticize one another for expressing a tolerance level that differs from our own. We are a family of friends that all enjoy this hobby and while we may disagree at times, we should always strive to disagree with courtesy and respect.
Has anyone figured out how to activate an autopilot function with this aircraft? I know it didn’t have one IRL but I have changed systems.cfg to ‘autopilot=1’ with no success.