Request for help in selecting components

Hello Everyone,

it’s my first post on forum. I’m not fluent English so please forgive any mistakes :slight_smile:

After 7 years it is time to change the equipment.

Current configuration: i5 2500K @ to 4.3 GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX 1070.

I consider the purchase of:
CPU, cooling, motherboard, RAM, SSD, case. The budget for these elements is approx. $950

My initial choices:

  • Ryzen 5 5600X. I was also thinking about the R7 3700X or the i7 10700K/F.

  • Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite (for AMD); in case of Intel - I do not have a choice…

  • case (it is important that it is quiet and does not absorb mass of dust) - initially I choose beQuiet Pure Base 500, but it is more due to the design. If there is something around $80 that is visually similar, but better, I will be happy to take a look…

  • cooling beQuiet Shadow Rock 3 - I’m not sure if it will be enough …

  • SSD 512 GB - I do not have a specific model

  • RAM 32GB - as above

Optional purchase: power supply - the current one is XFX 550W and I actually don’t know if it is suitable for the new configuration - here I would ask for an additional opinion (PSU is not included in the budget, but if the replacement is necessary, I will throw a few cents…)

GPU stays at the moment - although I realize that I will have to change it, especially since I would like to comfortably fly on the MS FS2020 with at least high settings. For now, I am waiting for the situation after the release of the new Radeons.

Ps. The monitor is 27”, 2560x1440.

In summary, a request for assistance in selecting components, taking into account the above requirements. The budget can be increased a little, but not too drastically :slight_smile:

Thank you in advance.

Good choice for the CPU; the 5600X is great. Don’t ‘downgrade’ to the 3700, it’s on an older architecture (lower IPC (Instructions Per Clock). I wouldn’t go for intel anymore now. AMD just has the better offerings, and cheaper motherboards as well.

Motherboard; any B550 board with good power delivery will be fine for the 5600X.

Case; mostly up to taste, just make sure it’s got plenty of airflow (no glass panels blocking fans etc).

CPU cooler; the 5600X comes with a bundled cooler, which should be fine in most cases, so I think you’d best just try that. It’s free. If you do decide to upgrade it down the line, any tower based air cooler will do. The 5600X is only a 65W part, so it really doesn’t need any expensive cooling.

SSD; I would go for a 1TB drive. Gives you a bit more headroom. Make sure it’s an M.2 NVME drive. PCI-E gen 3 is good enough, you’ll spend a premium on gen 4, and it won’t make that much of a difference.

RAM; Get 3600MHz RAM with decent timings. Any lower will reduce the performance you can get out of the CPU by too much.

Power Supply; will largely depend on the GPU you choose to go with. If you’re sticking with the GTX1070, it should be fine (as again, the 5600X is only 65W). If you go for a new 3000 series GTX card, or the new Radeon 6000 cards from AMD, I would suggest upgrading to a 750W PSU.

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Thank you for substantional answer!

Yes, maybe I should spent money for additional 500GB of SSD than for cooler :thinking: On the other hand, I already have one 256 GB SSD (Adata SU900) for the system and other applications - so the second one would be only for FS. I will thinking about it.

As for RAM - do you think these would be good: G.Skill Ripjaws V, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL18 ? It has nice price in my country…

Price and availability are always the concern. G.Skill has a good reputation for RAM, and while the timings (CL18) could be tighter, you’ll probably end up spending a whole lot more for that. Looks like a pretty good choice.

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Ok thank you again for your help.
If anyone would like to add something else and confuse me a bit :wink:, please feel free…

Avoid, they’re crap. I did the ASUS B550 and it rocks!

CPU 5600X > 3700X unless you’re looking for better multicore performance over single core performance.

You mean Asus TUF GAMING B550 PLUS?
…and what do you think about MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS?

I am completely unfamiliar with the technology that processors are created and the impact of specific architecture on the operation of various types of applications. I rarely use a computer for graphic work, if any it is 2D; mainly office applications and the mainly simulators.

For which type of application is it better to buy more cores?

What I have read that IPC has a lot of importance, and this is better in the new 5000 Ryzen series - hence my choice.
Maybe the 5000 series is also more forward-looking … - I don’t know…?
I also read somewhere that AMD 5000 will work very efficiently with the new Radeon series. I probably will change GPU also in the future…

You only need the extra cores if you’re into heavy productivity workloads like rendering or video editing.

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Asus TUF GAMING B550 PLUS - Yes, I have this one. Great board, no complaints at all.

Can’t comment on the MSI board directly, inclined to not want to promote MSI after they were caught doing this.

Sounds like 5600X would be best. I’m trying to get stock for myself, to bump up from my 3600. :slight_smile:

… and why do you think Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite isn’t good choice?

Gigabyte do cheap. You’re more likely to have an issue with them over other more reliable brands. they’re not as solid or reliable as they used to be.

Their GFX cards across the board have cheap fan noise issues (I have their 2060 and had to rip out the fans and replace them with Noctua fans to quell horrible fan noise).

Ok I will keep that in mind.
Thank you.

Guys, couple of additional questions:

  • I wonder if my 7 year old XFX 550W is still in good condition? I don’t know if the power supply can lose its properties in the long term?
    I wouldn’t want to break new parts the first time I run :slight_smile:

  • what SSD will be better:
    ADATA 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro / Samsung 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe 970 EVO ?
    Probably I will choose Aorus Elite motherboard which has thermal protect for M.2 PCIe NVMe 4.0 x4, but above ADATA has own radiator. Will it be compatible to Elite?

  • I have already ADATA 256 GB SU900 SATA. Which SSD will be better for system and which one for FS2020 - SATA or M.2 (one of these above)?

i build a few pc’s for friends and family and the gigabyte b550 aorus elite is a solid weighty quality board for its price with no frills but a good quality power section which is useful for overclocking , i also just got myself the msi carbon wifi b550 board for my own setup and like the gigabyte it has a high quality power section and in its bios it looks to be one to have if you like overclocking and better than the gigabyte for that purpose … i was bothered by msi being caught in the scalping scams but after recommendations for this carbon board i gave them my money over the gigabyte

power supply may well be ok condition wise but its a decent quality unit so should be ok but i suspect on b550 boards and newer cpu’s like the ryzen 5600x it may be getting a bit close to its power limit with a powerful graphics card around the geforce rtx2060 range possibly leading to black screens , i’d run it now and change it before you upgrade the video card

the elite only has 1 m2 passive radiator but 2 m2 slots so any m2 will fit its lower slot with its own radiator so it is down to which m2 drive you fancy really , performance wise these things operate so fast you wouldnt notice much difference between them

Thank you veru much for explanations!

Hello,
I’m finishing build my new system (yes, it took so long because I was waiting for 5600x delivery).
May I ask you one question again…

I already have ADATA 256 GB SU900 SATA and I bought additionally M.2 EVO 970 1TB.
Which one will be better for system and which one for FS2020? Of course I also use some office software of other games.
Maybe this 256 GB could by only for FS, and system and rest of stuff on M.2?
But maybe for FS better is M.2 (then system on SATA)?
What do you think?

M.2 is where you should put Windows, FS2020, games, and office software. The SATA is for photos, videos, music and documents etc.

Is it ok to have Windows and FS2020 on the same drive?

That’s the way I have it; sim almost everyday. Built my own PC’s since 1998. You said you had a 1TB M.2; that’s plenty big enough for Windows, FS2020 (160gb), 15+ large games, music and photos.

It will work fine as long as you don’t almost completely fill the drives capacity. I think only other thing is if you have to ever do a fresh windows install you would have to re-install the sim I believe.