ISSUE DESCRIPTION
Once you’ve unlocked the Medium Cargo Specialization, you MUST complete the RJTF - RJTQ delivery in a C208B if you want to do any other Medium Cargo missions. Part of unlocking the specialization is the acquisition of the Instrument Rating - meaning that live weather is going to be applied to any subsequent flights, including this required flight.
RJTQ is located on the eastern side and at the foot of the Miyakejima volcano with a single runway, Rwy 2-20. For my attempt of this REQUIRED mission, winds at RJTQ were 290 at a plane-bending 49 knots. A crosswind of 49 knots flowing down the slope of a volcano and slamming your plane just before you reach the runway. This mission SHOULD have been flagged as not recommended at the time due to unsafe winds. No such luck.
1.) Why was this destination ever chosen as a REQUIRED flight destination? The location of the runway with respect to the volcano made any winds from the west tricky at best, and fatal at worst.
2.) Why is this required mission not even checked for acceptable weather conditions prior to being made available?
[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? The only contents of my Community Folder are the Navigraph-related folders.
FREQUENCY OF ISSUE
How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)? It’s live weather.
REPRODUCTION STEPS
- Fly into RJTQ Rwy 20 when winds are from 290 @ 49kts.
- Watch your plane get thrown to the left and into the ground.
- Wonder if the developers ever considered flying these missions under anything besides perfect weather.
YOUR SETTINGS
What peripherals are you using, if relevant: Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System, Saitek Pro Rudders
[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it? DevMode (SDK 1.0.0) is enabled, but not in use.
[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU (8 GB RAM)
[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?
It’s the game-generated wind effect. I am unaware of any wind settings I can control when live weather is active.
MEDIA
[END OF FIRST USER REPORT]
For anyone who wants to contribute on this issue, Click on the button below to use this template:
Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
•
Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
•
If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
•
1 Like
Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
•
Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
• Official word in another thread is that real-world reported wind gusts are carrying through to missions that use weather presets, like this one and some others. It was stated this should be fixed after next week’s patch.
If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
•
1 Like
Do you have the same issue if you follow the OP’s steps to reproduce it?
• I had this exact same issue today. Arrived at the vulcanic island with extreme winds coming down the mountain. Impossible to land safely
Provide extra information to complete the original description of the issue:
•
If relevant, provide additional screenshots/video:
•
I went online to check the real weather at Miyake-Shima and the 49 knot crosswind was the actual weather at the time. Perhaps the patch next week will fix the problem for required mission flights (from what I understand, the required missions will get pacified weather), but as far as “live” weather is concerned, the rendition was totally accurate.
Current winds at Miyake-Shima are around 280° @ 29 knots, so it’s still coming down the slope of the volcano. The maximum demonstrated crosswind velocity of the C208B is 20 knots. That’s not a limitation, just the maximum amount demonstrated to the FAA during Type Certification.
1 Like
This mission doesn’t promote good airmanship. The mission is still subjecting aircraft to a 36 knot crosswind on landing, The Cessna Caravan is only certified to a 20 knot crosswind. If an airline was to attempt this landing and wrote off the plane, insurance would likely deny the claim. I have heard the hack for this mission is to land on the opposite runway which will result in an easy and smooth landing. The PFD in this video shows the high winds:
1 Like
I should clarify the crosswind statement. A “maximum demonstrated crosswind component” is not necessarily the maximum crosswind the plane can safely handle, it’s the maximum that was DEMONSTRATED during the type certification. It’s all the FAA could verify so it’s the maximum they will guarantee the plane can handle. A plane might be able to handle 40 knot crosswinds in theory, but if there aren’t 40 knot crosswinds at the time the manufacturer brings an aircraft in for type certification, the FAA isn’t going to certify 40 knot crosswind capability.
(and yes, I realize FAA Type Certifications don’t apply outside the U.S.)
Very interesting information. Thanks!!
Appearantly, the maximum certied crosswind of an aircraft assumes that the pilot is of average skill:
“One of those requirements is a demonstration of crosswind controllability, and more specifically, how the aerodynamics of the airplane allows pilots “with no exceptional skill or alertness” to safely take off and land in crosswind conditions.”
It looks like it is a good mission and should remain with the high head wind. If you think the c crosswind is too high, then you should land at your alternate.
This mission is fine and challenging. I wish I could do it again,
Unfortunately, as that particular mission is a canned mission that everyone must complete if they want to perform Medium Cargo missions, you can’t land at an alternate. Landing anywhere other than the designated destination automatically fails the mission. The prevailing winds there appear to be across the runway for this time of year. There’s not much head or tailwinds to be had, just crosswinds.
I’m having the same issue. It seems to be impossible to land safely on the runway. The crazy crosswind would blow the plane over once you’ve touched down.
Had the same issue here, super strong crosswind making it pretty much impossible to land without being blown upside down and crashing. Eventually managed landing from the other side (RWY 20) and putting in almost full right aileron to not roll after touching down, after trying a dozen times from the other end and either not even landing safely, or being blown over during taxi.
Finally managed in the end, after a crash, and resulted in a C-rating, losing almost all of my progress to date getting from A to S tier… Very disappointing that this sort of thing can make it into a final product, these mandatory unlock missions should not have dynamic weather enabled, and should be verified for acceptable weather conditions, everywhere along the route.
