As soon as my plane touches down, it completely pushes me off the runway with that rudder. I have checked my settings a million times. I’ve taken off the assist’s, turn them back on. I’ve tried the sensitivity and it still is not working. I spent $120 on this game and had the same issue back when it released in 2021. I took like 8 months of a break to hopefully come back and see some change but nope, it’s still the exact same. Please look at the video link attached and u will know what I’m talking about. Rudder! Rudder.
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I think I hurt my neck watching that video… That being said, are you sure you’ve taken all assists off? You need to check and make sure the assists are set to True to Life with everything Hard and save them first. Then try to make another landing.
Also, check your control profile. See if you can delete all your current control profiles (especially since you’ve been on a 8 month break), and start to create a new control profile from blank. Then slowly and manually assign the controls that you want into your hardware input. One at a time. And try another landing. Again, don’t turn on any assists at all. Keep everything off.
Note that we have a separate control now between Rudder and Nose Wheel Steering… so make sure you bind them properly as well.
Thank you so much for you’re response. I have a few questions tho.
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Why is this happening when all the assist are on? What is causing the plane to just completely get thrown off the runway.
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8 months ago, I only turned off “auto rudder” and a few more things and the landings were perfect until randomly the same thing started occurring, even with the settings off.
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What if I only turned off “auto rudder”. Will it still happen? For now everything is turned off except the assisted checklist since I need that to even make into the air haha. (That’s embarrassing)
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What if even with these settings off, it occurs again? Then what? And lastly why is this happening. What is causing it. Is it a bug? Is it an issue with my Xbox or simply the settings will solve it.
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I don’t know why the first pic was posted. Please ignore and check out the second pic of my settings right now.
It’s a major bug and it has been around since launch as you noted. I dumped this software last year as I was sick of them ignoring major issues with their product and this is one of them.
I reinstalled it last month and as you’ve noticed - it’s still there. There are multiple threads about it but nothing has been fixed yet.
Oh P.S you have good taste in music 
To answer your questions:
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From the way I see it, Assistance settings is like an AI engine running in the background, it behaves like it has its own set of controls that send inputs to the sim engine to control the aircraft. This engine is very generic. Probably designed with simple inputs in mind and applies simple controls. The thing is, no two aircraft are created equal in the sim. Some aircraft could have extra logic in place, more indepth simulation coding, different flight model handling, etc. A Cessna 172 flies completely differently than an Airbus A320. They’re coded differently with different flight handling characteristics and different systems. These differences in the aircraft coding means that you can’t just slap a generic AI and expect it to understand everything there is in that aircraft. Especially when the team making the AI assistance and the team developing the aircraft could be coming from two different and separate teams and don’t exactly communicate with each other. Then we have 3rd party aircraft that all do their own thing in their aircraft coding.
The Assistance setting is designed in there so that you can learn and get used to control one aspect of the aircraft while the AI assistance handles the rest. This means that it’s designed for the default aircraft that’s bundled as the mandatory aircraft that you can’t remove like the Cessna 172 and the TBM930. Once you learn and understand how to fly an aircraft, you’re expected to turn off the assists and start to get used to controlling the entire aircraft without assistance. The expectations is, once you are knowledgeable and skilled to handle one aircraft, you can move up to another aircraft without the need of the assistance.
To answer your first question as to what is causing the plane off the runway. My best guess is that the AI assistance is getting misleading information from the aircraft in the sim. It’s not unlike in real world where if you have a pitot tube blocked off by something, it’s feeding the flight computer with faulty sensory data, and the autopilot will react to them in the wrong way. So due to the different way the aircraft was coded in your case, the AI assist is simply reacting to bad data coming from the aircraft.
I’m not sure if it’s a bug per se… I just think it’s just an unfortunate design flaw on both sides, the AI assistance design and the aircraft design. But we all know, that the priority is to get the aircraft to behave as realistic as possible and the coding has the priority to be able to deliver that realism, developers that is making a realistic aircraft will not take AI assistance into account when coding this realism. They will not compromise their coding just so that the AI assistance can work with them, especially when the majority of people using the aircraft will not have the assistance on anyway. -
MSFS is notorious for having settings change on its own without you knowing. So even if you don’t do anything, if the MSFS server is updating your sim and introduce a new default setting, your previous setting might have changed on its own without you knowing. So I always recommend that for everytime you have an update. You reset and refresh every single one of your settings/options. Just to make sure that you have the latest control bindings standards, as well as you reset your options and adjust them to the way you want it before.
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The thing about assistance is what you see in the GUI menu is just the tip of the iceberg. I always find that there’s some hidden assistance settings that’s enabled in the background somewhere without the menu actually show it. So even if you only have the auto-rudder off you can still get some issues coming from somewhere else in the assistance engine. That’s why my recommendation is to turn everything off by setting the assistance preset to TRUE TO LIFE, and make sure all the sections are set to HARD. This is to just make sure every single assistance both visible and hidden ones are completely off. If you need some assistance because you can’t live with it, simply enable them one at a time.
Checklist assistance are there if you need help identifying where things are. It’s only there so that you can learn and get used to the flow in the cockpit. Once you’re familiar, you won’t need checklist assistance anymore and you can flip the switches in the right places just by looking at your own checklist. It’s also dependent on how detailed the aircraft developer would go out of their way to build that checklist. If they don’t bother, then the checklist assistance would be more misleading for you than if you were to get your hands on an accurate and realistic checklist and use it instead. -
If it occurs again when you have everything off, try to reset all your options again, make sure you flip the settings between EASY and TRUE TO LIFE assistance presets. Save it, reset your controls, delete all your custom control profile and start from blank profile again.
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