Save / Load a Flight (including Flight Plan) - MSFS Flight Planner functionality

Hello,
today I detected a very interesting behaviour when trying a workaround in order to load a flightplan during flight.

First after loading flight (.flt) from worldscreen , the flight plan was missing in FMC as usual, airplane (Boeing 787) appeared on last saved location, flying in heading nav mode.

Then I went back to menu with ESC and selected the ‘load from pc’ option.
As we know in the dropdown box, only .flt files can be selected, but nevertheless I could
load a plan by typing in the name of the .pln file directly in the box.

After went back to simulation, the flightplan was available in FMC and I could resume the flight without problems.

But now a very surprising thing came up. When went back with ESC to menu again in order to save my flight, the load/save button is missing, only options for restart and go back to main menu are available.

But it seems the basic functionality is working of loading flight and plan is working, but
for any reason the system does not allow any further saves.

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I will have to try that very same thing next time, loading a saved flight, going back to he main menu, then typing in the name.pln instead of .flt. If that really works, then why hasn’t Asobo said anything about it, unless other simmers have tried it and it didn’t work for them.

I see to remember that MS/ Asobo DID say something about it (Cannot find it now)
May have been Jayne in a Forum Post ?
ie You can only load a PLN (only a FLT), once you have started flying, and this was “BY DESIGN” .

Never made any sense to me, but I am sure it was officially announced as such in the forum .

Personally, I often use to loaded a .pln when in a flight, by using ESC back to a loading menu.

Now I typically load a .pln via a saved .pln (maybe after putting new one there) in the GPS system

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EDIT: Found the reference ~~

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And so, if you load a .pln after you load up a saved flight (going back to main menu via ESC key) and attempt to save again, will the save and load options be available? I think this is the issue TischWaerter466 was having.

I think I did read that post as well, but maybe I misinterpreted wrong.

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Hi, I am seeing still where I load a PLN into the world map with a valid flight plan loaded in the GPS, then save a FLT with current progress midflight, then, when reloading the new FLT file, frustratingly although there are waypoints in the navlog, there is no flight plan loaded in the GPS.
That isn’t still a known issue is it?
I am struggling to get the workflow of picking up on flights saved in progress. Either the GPS does not load, and/or there is no HUD on the external camera when they load.
Any technical or moral support welcome. Thank you.
SB

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Loading a FLT file in mid flight has not worked or not worked very well since the beginning. Originally FLT files were to be used only when restarting a flight from the beginning either from the ESC Pause screen or the end-of-flight screen.

As far as I know, they were never designed to be used to start from mid flight. This might be due to the design of each aircraft. Each FLT file contains dozens of aircraft parameters and settings at the start of each flight. FLT files created mid flight often contain more parameters at settings. Each FLT file contains a pointer to the most current flight plan, not the flight plan used when the FLT file was saved. Probably each aircraft developer doesn’t test loading FLT files mid flight. One aircraft I use doesn’t have anything in the FMC after loading a FLT file. Is this problem due to the developer or MSFS? There may be limitations that are not documented on using a FLT file after the flight has started.

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Thanks @PacificSet90456, I follow. I just got back from a deep-ish dive on the FLT file contents as well. Ultimately I am using the technique of splitting legs of a long flight into separate FLT files using Little Navmap and giving up (for now) on trying to rely on MSFS supporting a continual mid flight load and save flow. Instead I will just be loading the next leg’s flight file. It doesn’t help with picking up from an improvised airport landing off the FLT plan but hey life’s not perfect.

That’s too bad. I thought maybe with SU12, the issue would be fixed.

So far, I have been completing short haul flights as other do I am sure; only 1 maybe 2 hour flights. In those flights, I haven’t had issues with the autopilot nor flight plans loaded in the A320 neo and CJ4.

I had to make a go around in the A320; however, I think that was only because I didn’t have the aircraft configured correctly for a proper glideslope.

For what it’s worth, I’ve found the following makes my saved flights load correctly with the plan when reloading.
After saving the .flt file in MSFS, open in a texteditor.

  • Go to the section called [GPS_Engine]
  • Make sure the “CountWP” is equal to the number of waypoints (“waypoint.”) in the [ATC_ActiveFlightPlan.0] section. Note: This section counts waypoints from 0, so if you have waypoint.0 to waypoint.62, you need to set CountWP=63.
  • In the same [GPS_Engine] section set “NextWP=0”
  • save file

After doing the above, my flights load with the correct flightplan displayed.

Hope this helps.

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Interesting, I will have to try that. Does this trick work with all aircraft in MS2020 or only a certain few?

Isn’t funny how we still need to modify files to reload flight plans after the .flt is saved? We still shouldn’t have to do that, but…

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Yeah it’s pretty ridiculous to be honest. Saving and loading flights should be “basic” functionality.

I only use the JMB VL-3, so not sure if this is generally applicable or not. Give it a go and let us know if it works for you…

Would really love to see a fix for this issue. Strange thing is that the aircraft is in the same correct position after loading the previous savegame but only in the preview. After hitting fly, the position is moved from last postion (eg. ramp) to the runway. Time and weather is still not live and therefore this feature is broken …

EDIT: I just noticed this bug is fixed when saving and loading via xbox cloud. However the taskbar disappears in this setting

When I reload the saved game, because I had some problems with sim speedup and the airplane was overstressed in one second, the flight plan was simply erased. I can’t see it in the VFR map and the airplane don’t know it. Everything acts like the airplane was just born in the air and it knows nothing. Iam flying Boeing 787 from LFBD airport to KSEA.

Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

No

Brief description of the issue:

As described in previous part

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Load the flight from saved game

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PC

This is ridiculous! Why isn’t this fixed already. Now I know it is not a/c specific, reloading a flight plan and it being non-existent mid-flight happens in all a/c. This will not be fixed because of other issues in the sim!? That sounds like an excuse. Ace Studios had this function down when they created 2004; so why can’t Asobo fix it?

And I recall this WAS showing on the Developers’ Roadmap as ‘Planned’ but now it mysteriously disappeared from that 2 weeks ago…

What!? Be still my heart, they are finally going to get this fixed!? After three years, they are finally going to tackle that issue?? Let’s hope so! Maybe they got enough friction from simmers to say 'hey, maybe we should get this fixed if we plan to keep making money."

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This is my biggest complaint about the sim amazed more people dont moan .

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Who knows, since it seemingly disappeared from the most recent Developer Update list…

Thank you for looking that up. I hope it happens!

Weird how it mysteriously “disappeared” from the list and now it is posted?