Thanks for the engine.cfg modification suggestion, I haven’t had time to put it into practice yet. I hope to test it soon and I will give you my opinion…
I appreciate the effort and attention. Great work! I am really enjoying the SF260 so far!
All it will do is change the reading on the EGT gauge, it won’t affect fuel flow or actual performance of the engine as far as I can tell by what is changed by the modification.
Take a look here at 3’.55" for the roll rates (The aircraft is a sf260 too D-EMEO)
SIAI Marchetti SF-260 - some little aerobatics (GoPro Hero 2) - YouTube
Look at the same video when landing the aircraft and listen to the stall advisor that comes alive at 70 knots or check the landing in this other video
4K Aerobatics Marchetti SF260 Mountain Approach Zell Am See - YouTube
The videos are real and the planes too. What will the reality be? Who will be right?
Furthermore, check also the manifold pressure value which, with the throttle idle, brings the pointer to the minimum limit of less than 10.
Hello,
in the video mentioned:
I do not hear any stall warning during the approach, the horn is about the “gear unsafe warning” (red light on and blinking) in the short final that stops when the pilot lowers the gear, indeed the stall light does light up during the final flare when speed is well below 70 at 60 kias.
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EDIT:
take a look at this video and you will see that the stall warning blinks sometimes in the final of the flare when the speed is below 60 kias
I tried those settings and agree with your post. They do not intervene on the crux of the matter: the lack of modeling of a non-secondary aspect of the functioning of naturally aspirated engines. Honestly, I would have preferred to pay even more (50 euros) for a complete modeling of an aircraft that I have always adored (unfortunately only as an observer) and which was part of my youth.
By making the recommended changes I had an unwanted and unexpected secondary effect: even restoring the initial settings the aircraft became uncontrollable, with the need to act simultaneously and heavily with both the ailerons and the pedals just to maintain the flight line .
I’ve tried everything, like checking, recalibrating all the peripherals and recreating their profiles within the simulator. It didn’t help and only by completely reinstalling the product twice the problem was partially reduced but not resolved. Additionally, I always have Crash detection active, but when I lost control immediately after takeoff and the plane crashed to the ground. Normally this would have interrupted the simulation but this did not happen and I found myself on the ground with the landing gear retracted and the engine and propeller running. This all seems very strange to me.
Has anyone had similar problems and can give me suggestions (thanks)?
Sounds like a normal Italian mechanical response to being fiddled with to me
Sorry that really didn’t help. That’s weird though. Must be some other file left over. Delete it from roaming airplanes folder perhaps (but you will lose Hobbs hours etc)
\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator\SimObjects
Airplanes\ then the sf-260 folder.
hello,
it seems something like you are using legacy model or altered somehow the flight_model.cfg
/SSW
Crash detection does not work for me either (did mention that a few posts back) …the plane just kind of bounces and then Y key to get it back in the air again!
My crash detection is on - I always fly with it on, so its not that!
Hello,
crash detection is really out of our control, however I never had occasion to try the crash on the ground, I also tried it with the Cessna 172 and Asobo DA62 and they don’t crash even though I set “CRASH DETECTION” on enabled
/SSW
Fair enough …I havent tried to crash those yet !
In order to show SSW SF260 roll performances here a brieff footage of its rolling capability. (They are very close to what is expected, about 130 deg/sec)
Hello,
Ours is a work for passion but it is also a business. Forgive us, but how many people do you think you can find to pay 50 euros to do the override of the Asobo software regarding the management of the mixture when probably between some versions the problem will be solved by Asobo itself ? Think about it, do what you ask costs much more than 50 euros.
sincerely
/SSW
I agree… this is one of the issues that will most likely be addressed by the sim itself. Just like turboprop behaviour in the past, etc.
I modified and then restored only the engine.cfg file so what I reported is inexplicable to me. Crash detection: since I am a terrible pilot, keeping it always active allows me to have a first rough indication of a maneuvering error, so I have collected an infinite series of crashes with the most disparate aircraft: F35, F16, Spitfire, Me109, Corsair, F15, Zipper, G91, Tiger Moth etc. All products outside Asobo production, which I don’t use. So you can understand my doubts…
This is not polemical, but brutally following your reasoning the Zipper would never exceed Mach 1 (the Hornet Asobo did not exceed it the last time I used it, more than a year ago). Yet the necessary code was found independently by various companies. With the upcoming release of MSFS 2024 do you really think that Asobo will solve this shortcoming? I may be pessimistic, but next year with MSFS2024 the problem will arise again; on the other hand, you will have a product on the price list that unfortunately is not entirely in line with the quality standards of your company.
I have no intention of abandoning your product, but I sincerely hope that you will work (over time) to overcome the various problems that are emerging. If I am disappointed it is because based on the level of the aircraft I purchased from you (for P3D: F104S, G91; MSFS2020: Zipper, G91) I expected an equal level and I regret that your latest addition does not meet the high standard of precedents. I know I’m particularly boring and pedantic, but a long time ago I studied to be an aeronautical expert…
Good work
hello,
i’m afraid i can’t get your point.
Zipper overtakes Mach 1 at the right altitude, it easily reaches m 1.95 above FL 300 if you follow the right pattern. (famous snake pattern)
Obviously it is not supersonic at low altitudes and it must not exceed it because it comes before the limit of both temperature and VNE.
If anything the difficulty was to maintain these characteristics, many others abundantly exceed MACH 1 at low altitude which is unrealistic
I’m sorry you’re disappointed. But you’ve gotten your answer many times over. Stating your feelings further isn’t going to change reality. I highly recommend you take up coding and modeling so you can understand what they’re dealing with. Companies like A2A and Milviz have built up a large code base to use through having huge development teams and through government contracts, customers who can afford large sums of money. Milviz has 9 separate teams of developers, many of whom are supported by corporate and government contracts. SSW puts food on their families’ tables with much smaller development budgets. Please understand what you’re asking.
If the mixture situation bothers you that much, please submit a bug report to Asobo, as it’s an issue with many planes.
In the meantime, there’s a whole lot you can learn about flying if you ignore that teeny foible. Mixture at least works now, albeit not perfectly. When MSFS was first released, it pretty much didn’t work at all .
This evening I spent the first time for a proper flight. Flew off Cameri, in a mix of VMC and IMC. Over the Alps with little clouds, all the way to the italian border then following it to then go back for an ils in IMC in LIMC. All in VR.
I have found this version of the sf260 honestly immersive. It behaves like a semi-acrobatic plne which is exactly what it is. The energy balance in the plane is peculiar as I remember it to be.
I just think it’s a very solid release now.
Great little plane, Thank you Sim Skunk Works.
Really enjoying it, and your other planes.