Maybe fantasy weather is good. Every sim has fantasy weather. It’s impossible to get the real weather into the sim.
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Well yes, you can certainly question how ‘live’ the data is anyway since it doesn’t from what I believe pull live data every minute anyway. It’s modelled on recent data pulled at some stage during each day.
What I mean by I had no issues is that every time I went to my local airport the weather resembled what I saw out my window and what was forecast. Travelling through the weather for me there were believable transitions. It was all just that, believeable (well apart from the excessive thunder/lightning/rainbows, but that’s another thread entirely!).
Since SU7 I have now seen so many bad transitions and clouds spring up out of nowhere to engulf me that just about every flight there seems like something weather related to comment on. Now that could just be to do with the grounded clouds or the sudden hard metar transitions, we will find out soon I guess with the beta.
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Anyone here got early access to the beta today? Apparently if you were a beta tester previously you got added to it and it’s now available (it’ll be released to the rest of us to join the public beta Monday).
Seems people posting about it in the general thread saying weather is improved but as I’m not in the beta I can’t comment unfortunately.
Well, it works with P3D. And it works with XP using Active Sky. Of course if you are expecting a 100% copy of the reality (in a simulator) you will never get it. That’s not at all what i expect. I expect them to simulate the aviation-relevant variables accurately (meaning accurate upper winds and temperatures and correct weather-variables like pressure, winds, visibility and cloud coverage at airports). What is being simulated/calculated beetween those transitions will never be a copy of real life and ALWAYS be an interpolation.
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Well, I’ll have to wait until the patch is released because I’m a steam user. 
Promises me to check that everything is in order. 
It sounded like you expected it to be real live weather though. I found the weather more accurate before su7. Never had this kind of unstable weather where i live with thinderstorm clouds everywhere. Hope they manage to fix it in the patch that are coming.
There is such a thing as common sense though. If we complain that local airport weather isnt accurate, its common sense that locally applied weather based on METAR in the sim needs to blend realistically with the general weather system, not just appear or disappear based on distance from the airport.
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I’m also experiencing the temperature spike bug. Didn’t know what was causing my Citation to suddenly show an ITT spike at altitude. Thought it was a bug with the plane. Then seen the outside temp at 228 C and realized that was the issue. This is basic stuff and they can’t get that right?
Hello. To me it seems fixed. Just fly from LOWI to LFMN. A32NX FBW 27000 ft ok. Very choppy weather but good. What was that in the last two days?
Happened just hours ago. Also the time before that was about 3 days ago.
I remember from the developer interviews how the simulation weather was made to respond to the physical variables in the atmosphere.
But when I look at the simvars using the little tool simvars.exe in the SDK, the relative humidity and/or dew point temperature are missing among the ambient variables.
This makes it even harder to blend METAR information because it requires interpolating the derived weather parameters like visibility and “clouds”, rather than the physical quantities like humidity and aerosol particle concentration …
Absolutely true. The only issue with the previous system (and this is just my opinion) is that it over sampled precipitation (storms). It seemed that if the area had even the slightest ‘chance’ of rain/storms then that’s what you got, and you got A LOT of it.
Aside from that the system worked very well from an overall aesthetic and immersion standpoint. Just needed a means to generate actual visibility reduction without using clouds and precip to make it happen.
To me this METAR implementation obsession needs to be put to rest (again, just my opinion). It cannot be done effectively and seamlessly after the fact. Doing so only increases the chance of screwing something up inadvertently, ergo SU7.
Someone here (or in another thread) mentioned basing the METARs on the (previous) sim generated weather (for VATSIM use). That is probably the most effective way to accommodate the most people. However if you do that the sim would need to have a robust planning feature built in.
Sadly, even if that were to happen and come out working perfectly there would still be wailing and gnashing of teeth from some because the single drop of drizzle on the window next to my computer is not being rendered on the monitor.
It’s called a ‘Simulation’ for a reason!
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I don’t like METAR based weather in this sim because it so much different than prediction based weather and they will never manage to get METAR blend in with a prediction that is calculated globally already. They need to recalculate the whole weather globally based of the METAR values to be smoothly integrated in the sim. I don’t think meteoblue wants to do that only to be usable in MSFS. We need to get a transition somewhere and that is in custom made setting that will always be the same and we will notice the weather change in unvaried way.
Meteoblue predicted weather will always feel varied because that is calculated/simulated worldwide all the time and will never feel the same. Weather is varied not set to be a transition between different reports. Using METAR is not a simulated weather. Using meteoblue is simulated weather because that is what meteoblue does. Simulates the weather globally.
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METAR is report we know happened but only one report at the time. Meteoblue is the same but simulates/predicts the weather based of those numbers for a period of time then starts over when a new report comes in. They take reports of the weather one time then calculate based of those reports globally and simulates the weather until they get a new report of the weather.
Why do we want to destroy that system by suddenly transition in some random reports that does not fit into those calculations? Please explain to me and make me convinced it’s the better choice 
I would like to have improvements on the prediction to be more accurate. That i think meteoblue also want to improve to make better and more accurate predictions.
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i read that the cloud height has been resolved in the Beta version, does anybody know if that’s the case also for non beta players ?
Not for non-beta
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I had the super hot weather bug on Friday. I tried again over weekend. Two flights on Saturday and two on Sunday. No issues. Flying at FL380. Just completed another flight today. No issues.
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What is going on with the clouds after sim update 7. There used to be a defined line you could see for miles when approach a line of thunderstorms and or heavy rain associated with a cold front. Now when you get to that area it’s scattered clouds with a bunch of clear areas. It’s terrible. Case in point there is a long line of thunderstorms and heavy rain stretching across the eastern half of the USA Today. Precipitation tops are as high as 41k feet in some areas. I am transitioning this front from katl to kilt and it looks terrible. See attached pictures. It was way better before SU7. I really hope they are working on this.
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I have both versions but now only steam version installed, at the moment, so I can’t try it - is this the “open beta hotfix version” ?
But basically it’s just like “METAR based engines work” - and if not much will change we will not see the “before SU7” weather anymore.
And these threads are exactly about this “change” or “approach” - but as I said, I can only say that when the release version is there - until then I’ll wait and see.
For some it’s an improvement for some it’s a “regression” - but some people have said so many times about it and I don’t want to repeat myself - I’ll wait until the “final result” - then I can judge - but if they (meanwhile) only correct the cloud height we won’t see anything different.
Maybe it is a new approach and not yet completely finished and will then contain everything as a final version - with additional sources and data, Joerg only talked a bit about new technologies also related to storms - maybe it has to be like this to “implement” other things, I don’t know, who knows, only this way it is not complete and I hope they will manage that !
Hopefully because the further integration of Metar data regarding clouds, visibility is blended with Meteoblue data, we will end up with a really nice and very accurate weather depiction. Remember this is not now switching to METAR only and totally forgetting meteoblue, it’s intended to give us an overall better picture.
The way I see it is Meteoblue gives you sort of a weather view that is around 75%, and the METARs help to fill in that further 25%.
At least we are not switching to JUST METAR data only, because that would indeed be a regression.