SimWorks Studios PC-12 (47 and NG)

This looks like 2024. The reflectiveness of the surfaces could be making it look brighter than it actually is. Notice how the standby attitude is mirrored under the glareshield.

Also, the light itself will need readjustment in 24.

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The landing is still just as unstable; when the plane touches down, it skids to the left and right, just like before. It’s a shame for such a beautiful addon…

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Watch your touchdown speed, not too fast, rather closer to stall speed, like IRL.

Shouldn´t the BarberPole in ASI be more like 230 KIAS at 18.800ft? Or am I missing something and the barberpole isnt showing MMO konverted to KIAS?

This could be a Asobo issue with the ground friction. A lot of aircraft have the same issue. I have rhe same issue with Black Square, PMDG, FlightFX, and Fenix add ons.

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I agree but more with SWS PC12. IMO Its not normal, their developer must find solution with this issues. However I prefer fly it than Carenado.
I have same landing problem with the very good Milviz PC6 too

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We could not reproduce this problem in the latest updates. I was able to land it with 70-80kts of IAS and went straight down the runway. Keep in mind that you need to get all three wheels down before applying reverse and brakes only once your speed drops under 50kts, like IRL.

While you may still experience a kick at 50kts on take-off, we reduced that problem as much as we can within the limits of MSFS’ flight modelling.

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But it might not be all their fault to fix. I flew the PC12 last night and didn’t notice this during takeoff and landing. Landed with about a 10knot direct crosswind at KSTL, was able to track center as well as I would expect in that crosswind.

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I’m finding it extremely stable, take off and landing. Very predictable, with a little trim.

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Here is a few views of my landing tonight at KSBA, wind was almost down the runway but it shows that on touchdown it’s far more stable than it used to be. you can see my rudder inputs were very small, I’ll try to find a better crosswind tomorrow

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Ok just landed in KBCT on rwy 5 with winds 070 14G22

METAR: KBCT 042153Z 07014G22KT 10SM SCT040 26/16 A3017

The PC12 was a bit too squirrely, a bit more like on ice than my flight last night and wanted to weather vain heavily into a 5-7 knot crosswind.

loaded up the Black Square TBM 850 and loaded onto final. same runway, same winds, but a more solid result, tough to describe but took way less rudder to track center :man_shrugging:

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better to compare with the real thing and not with an other addon.

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Are you on 1.6.11? Also, what steering mode are you using? There are two options, switchable by clicking the left pedal:

  • Pedals only: that can give you up to 60 degrees of steering with the pedals
  • Pedals & toebrakes: pedals give you up to 12 degrees of steering, while toebrakes allow you to go up to 60.

At landing speeds steering isn’t a problem as it is limited anyway, but just to be safe.

Also, is your YD turned off on landing? What is your trim set to? Flap setting and crosswind strength? These are all factors that can affect the plane significantly.

True but I don’t have a PC12 or know anyone who does. But maybe someone who flies one can compare?

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Yes, deleted old install and downloaded new from the website. I didn’t know about the pedal clickspot. Could be that I hit that accidentally and didn’t know and on my last landing had a full 60deg with pedals and the one in the video had only the 12. I’ll try again tonight. Is there an indictator in the cockpit to determine what mode it is?

Yes YD off, flaps 30, trim set to stay coordinated (around center), crosswind was between 5-7knots from the right. But thinking back, knowing about the switchable steering modes, control was fine until the nose wheel came down then it got really sensitive.

ok, tried out the left pedal click spot and verified it was on the 12deg by turning in a circle full lock and clicking it to see the difference. with it on the 12deg setting, I did a few quick laps around KHXD, first was live weather which was light winds and the landing was smooth and easy to hold center line. Then I set up a 10knot crosswind and the PC12 handled it fine, nothing out of the ordinary for that kind of crosswind. Then bumped it to 20 knots and it was much better than last night, 20 knots is a healthy crosswind in most planes so I wasn’t expecting a perfect centerline hold through the rollout and it was more than controllable. seems maybe I was on the full 60deg setting on my last landing making small control inputs difficult.

here is the 20 knot crosswind landing, the bit of squirreliness after touchdown was me over correcting and the last sharp movement before stopping was also me as I only have a joystick with twist rudder so for me hitting the brakes and rudder input gives me toe brakes causing me to get a lot more angle from the nose wheel.

I could tweak my curves to soften the rudder input and use no brakes/let it roll out until I get to taxi speed to reduce that. thanks @SiRRiPPERORiG for the click spot, I think that will change a lot for me with this plane… a humble request, maybe an indicator in the cockpit to see what is selected incase it’s clicked accidently in flight only to ruin a good landing, perhaps a small light on the flap indicator dial that lights up when in full 60deg steering mode so lights out for landing

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In the next update the steering option will move to the tablet.

I like the “healthy crosswind” concept!

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How does the updated PC-12 compare to the default FS2024 model? Also, to save me reading through this entire thread, what are the Pro and NG options? I only see a Legacy version at the SWS webstore? I’m guessing it’s 2024-compatible, rather than native?

Our PC-12 is 2020-native and 2024-compatible (soon native).

The NG is being worked on and is variant of the /47 but with the same avionics as the NGX. The NGX’s main difference is the FADEC, which auto-manages the engine.

As far as our vs the default NGX, they are completely different in every aspect. The default NGX is off in the handling, performance and systems, but it is one of the better default planes.

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Also sounds on the SWS are much better than the default PC12. Started last night in exterior view and love the sound of the PT6 starting. Also interior, switch sounds are small but aids in immersion

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