Snow Cover or No Snow Cover

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KALB - Albany International. It looks like this thing is still a work in progress.

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No it is NOT a work in progress. It simply HAS NOT and still DOES NOT work. So disappointing.

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In Elmira, NY today, Dec 22,2020, there is between 10 and 15 inches of packed snow left over from last week’s storm. In fact, every square inch of the state of New York and central Pennsylvania is, at this moment, covered by a dense snowpack. The only places in both states free of snow are roads, streets and parking lots which have been plowed.

I just took off from KELM, and flew north to Seneca Lake and back. There is a small amount of very patchy snow on hilltops and some rural farm fields, but very sporadic. Small farm ponds do appear to be frozen over, but the snow coverage is not even close to current conditions.

The sim definitely has the ability to create dense snow cover on all exposed surfaces when using the custom weather menu, but that is not what is being provided by Live Weather.

On the MeteoBlue web site, they have maps showing accumulated snow cover and snow depth, and I thought this was what would be used for the new MSFS snow system. There is no question that MeteoBlue has this data, but it is not being correctly injected into the sim environment.

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I tried both KEWR and KTTN, no snow either.

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I just tried KHLN. No Snow…

METAR - KHLN 221946Z 35025G39KT 1 1/4SM -SN BKN026 OVC060 M03/M07 A2973 RMK AO2 PK WND 34042/1935 SNB36 PRESRR P0000 T10281072

In SIM

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I like how they made most of the Alps like the Russian wildest corner.

This is St. Moritz now. (live weather)

If all the roads would be so much covered in Snow there would be a riot against the government.

Now, let’s talk honestly. Do you really want to make me think that it “runs on your machine?” (as devs say)
Do you really want to make me believe that no one, in the entire team, has noticed this?

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That is exactly how the entire state of New York should look right at the moment, but does not. I don’t expect the weather system to be so sophisticated as to have snow on the ground, but leaving the roads uncovered - that is probably too much to ask.

I’m glad to see that the new “snow already on the ground” feature does seem to be working in at least some locations, but it should work anywhere that the MeteoBlue accumulated snow database shows snow has fallen. Hopefully this is something that can be adjusted server-side.

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I’m pretty gutted, flying into New York now, and no snow. Please Asobo, fix the snow and live weather bug.

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I’m pretty sure you’re talking about something else. This thread is about a brand new feature which is supposed to show accumulated snow on the ground. It’s doing it, but only a teeny bit. It can’t have worked in the past because the feature didn’t exist. It needs some tweaking.

I’m pretty sure you’re trying to say the weather engine doesn’t snow when it’s supposed to? Sorry you’re so disappointed.

And now we understand how the software made it out the door. The guys flew locally, but didn’t bother to look at the rest of the world. While France and the local area is fine country, there are more countries they might want to check out before the release software…

But, whatever, I’m still having fun :slight_smile:

What bothers me more are the new elevation anomalies that are everywhere now.

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The MeteoBlue accumulated snowfall map on their web site does show snowfall accumulation and depth for the entire world, so if the new feature works anywhere, it should work everywhere. There is a very small amount of snow in-game in upstate New York, but just a light dusting. The MeteoBlue website snow map does (correctly) show deep snow cover in central New York. I’ll check again tomorrow with a new forecast cycle. Since this new feature only went “live” with today’s update, maybe the snowfall data is not yet fully included in the Live Weather data feed.

I agree. I imagine there’s a bug. It looks to me that they are only putting snow in the US where it’s dark red and deeper.

do you mind posting what Europe looks like right now, St Moritz in particular?

The problem is that my local airport is in a deep-red zone on the MB accumulated snowfall map, and indeed there is about 10-15 inches on the ground even 5 days after last week’s storm, but in-game, just a few patches of snow. here and there in rural fields.

The live weather snow coverage after the update today is not realistic. It cant be that there is barely any snow in Voronezh/Russia in winter.

they must have mistaken Russia for the alps then.
In the alps I see everything literally covered in white:

Yes. Maybe is the global warming affecting also MSFS. It´s now snowing on Rio de Janeiro.

I just checked CYYB, North Bay Ontario, which is about 250 miles north, and also in a deep-red zone on the MB map. There is plenty of deep snow on the ground there. One difference. CYYB has a current temperature of -18C, while KELM has a current temperature of +4C (39 degrees). I wonder if the weather engine is not allowing snow to appear unless the air temperature is below freezing? It is certainly possible for previous heavy snow to exist when the air temp is well above freezing. It is supposed to drop down to 23 degrees F here later tonight. I’ll have to check back early tomorrow morning to see if the snow magically appears once the temperature drops.

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Just downloaded the new VR update Why is there SNOW in the Caribbean? This is St. Barts???

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I think you hit the nail on the head. It’s been above freezing in Boston for 3 days.

Kind of silly, eh? They have all this data, “eh, who cares, we can do it better!”