[Solved] TBM 930 NAV doesn't works(even with improvement mod)

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The title speaks for itself. NAV doesn’t works, everything else in AP works ok

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I use the TBM for nasty weather IFR flights at night on a regular basis. I’ll set up the flight before launch and make sure all the Navaid options are turned on. Having an approach plate for the destination helps a lot.

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I just tested it with Mugz Improvement plus WT G3000, and NAV is working. Don’t forget to enable AP/Trims toggle switch on the eyebrow panel - that usually stops most AP functions from working.

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Same for me. All is Ok except NavMap MFD frequent freeze

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Haven’t seen any of that. I usually zoom the center display map out to 15 miles or more before takeoff.

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Suggest you remove all your items in the Commuity Folder. Add the one which controls this add on back first. Check to see if it works now. Then add them back in one at a time until it does not work, you have found the culprit which causes it to fail. Keep checking all of them to see which ones might also stop it from working. We know you got at least one add on in that folder, because the fix has to go in that folder. Let us know.

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Unfortunately, this is a random bug.
Sometimes MFD NavMap is working ok just after engine start up and then stay working all along the flight
Sometimes MFD NavMap is frozen just after engine start up and then remain frozen EXCEPT if I reduce zoom scale below 2NM at this time NavMap display informations but as soon as I increase scale freeze is coming again.
In my community, I get only WT G3000 V0.7.4a Add On and TBM 930 liveries Add On

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This could well be the source of that.

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May be , but why is it random as I use all the time same add on livery ?

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I don’t use any add-ons and don’t have your problems.

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No add ons and on Xbox. No issues for me. This is one aircraft that is rock solid for me. NAV works and use it for lots of bad visibility IFR flights.

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That is the problem with buggy add-ons. Often the issues they produce are unpredictable.

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Surprisingly, I was flying to Moscow from my hometown(around 500 km), and I’ve accidentaly enabled trim functions on airplanes controllers during one of my “loses of control”, and it actually worked afterwards, lol. Hard to get used after B747

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Good thing the TBM 930 Improvement Mod is one of the ones that is not buggy.

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everybody experiencing this issue needs to report to Zen Desk or Feedback Hub so that it gets addressed with next sim update.

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Been flying TBM930 a lot recently with multi-leg flights.

I start from cold and dark, set everything up, then the nav works fine on that first leg.

I land, shutdown the engines.

I then start them up again, double check AP/Trim is enabled, setup my flight plan, ensure nav is set to FMS. At this point it stops working every time. I need to reload the plane for it to start working again.

I’ve noticed 2 things with this issue:

  1. AP can be set to on, with a flight plan and the correct leg selected, then I enable NAV and the plane just circles constantly. Never goes to the track line.

  2. Again the same, but instead NAV just doesn’t enable. This one seems rare but I did my checks and im pretty sure everything was setup as it should be.

I’ve also tried starting normally (not cold and dark) with the same issue. As soon as engine off, then back on, NAV breaks.

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Isn’t this the common issue that is expected behavior since the WT update to the Garmins?

In other words, you are trying to use the Garmin GPS in the old way instead of the new (realistic) way.

Can you double check? Symptoms sound like you just forgot to flip the AP master switch on the top panel.

I’ve been flying the TBM regularly and I’ve never had a problem with the FMS NAV AP.

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I made the post because it happened for the 3rd time today, my game is open, I can see the AP/Trim and yes it is ON as I said.

If this is the ‘true design’ of the garmin system and not a bug then as someone who’s designed UIs for 14 years, it is poor and borderline dangerous.

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I don’t know why Garmin programs things the way they do. If you have an issue with it, you could take it up with the company.

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NAV doesn’t automatically take you to the magenta line anymore - that was an erroneous behavior that could not be fixed until Working Title rebuilt the G3000 starting in AAU1.

NAV or GPS will “arm” showing in white on the Annunciator Scoreboard. You must manually fly or use a mode like HDG to intercept the magenta line at a 30 degree angle. When the aircraft is within 2 dots of the desired track, HDG will extinguish and NAV/GPS will start blinking, eventually turning solid Green. By then the plane will have banked to align with the flight path and start tracking true.

This is real-world Garmin FMS behavior.

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