Bad idea. Not only that’s not how they work IRL, would you really want to keep the button continuously pushed for a few minutes?
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spoilers are intended to be used for seconds not for minutes
That’s new to me. Where have you got this ‘info’ from?
I got this info from real life :). have you ever observed how flaps and spoilers are used during landing on airliners? How Flaps and spoilers work during landing? - YouTube
I didn’t see any spoiler use during the approach in your video?!?
Looks like you are confusing spoilers (speedbrakes) and ground spoilers and how they operate.
You are obviously referring to the ground spoilers and they extend automatically with wheel spin up at touchdown. No need to manually extend them (if you didn’t forget to arm them)
Do you know that others planes than airliners also exists ?
Spoilers (speed brakes) should be used as long as needed to manage speed in descents, so they are on a lever o be deployed more or less.
The better example is on gliders, you should have a look.
you are confusing spoilers and speedbrakes. speedbrakes are used to increase drag (to reduce speed) only while spoilers are used to increase drag AND decrease lift. spoilers are rarely used during approach because they can lead aircraft to stall. they can be used few seconds during approach if the pilot needs a fast deceleration and quick altitude drop at the same time, in other words for emergency landing.
Sorry, but that’s complete nonsense.
Spoilers = speedbrakes. They increase drag and also partially decrease lift.
Ground spoilers = they destroy lift. On most aircraft you can’t extend them in flight.
When used in flight, only a few spoiler panels act as spoilers/speedbrakes.
On ground, when acting as ground spoilers, all available spoiler panels extend and they extend to a much greater angle than in flight.
Both have nothing to do with an emergency landing.
If you use the spoilers/speedbrakes during the descent they must be retracted before landing!
There always a limit until when they need to be retracted. In most cases ~1000ft AGL.
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From your source:
“Despite what they are called, however, spoilers and speed brakes are used in the same manner and for the same purpose: to steepen the descent profile without increasing airspeed. They also can be used to reduce airspeed by holding the sink rate in check.”
“Deploying them allows an aircraft to descend more steeply without an increase in airspeed. (On piston-powered airplanes, they enable a rapid descent and reduce the risk of shock cooling the engine.)”
So your source (AOPA, nothing else !) says better than me what PZL104 an me wroted above:
- spoilers = speed brakes, despite what they are called.
- They are used to decrease speed and/or operate steepest descents without increasing speed.
Evidently, doing this needs you can manage the deployment to control desired speed. A toggle Deploy/Retract won’t do the job.
They are not talking about “use is restricted to a few seconds” or something similar. Simply because you need to be able to control the speed as long as necessary.
In French I would add:
CQFD
P.S. Thank you for proving me right.
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As @PlumbGlue67 wrote; If you would have read the article, you wouldn’t have posted the link. 
Btw. you are apparently confusing emergency landing with emergency descent.
I did several weeks ago and Asobo keeps closing the tickets. I keep reopening them so and they close them so, y’all need to start opening tickets on this issue!
Seems they have fixed the spoiler toggle bug now with the newest update.
Tried flying the Airbus and now it works for me.
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Dear neo
Thanks for all good solutions you always propose . it’s the reason I want to share with you a problem I’ve with the spoiler’s. the spoiler’s don’t extend automatically on touchdown when armed they where always working perfectly until this new update SU6.I’ve changed nothing in my hardware tried to work around but I couldn’t find any solution .I arm spoiler and extend manually but it’s boring.
Défaut Dreamliner 787 10 and défaut 747 .I never use mods or add-on.everyting is updated in my pc.
Thanks
Here’s the temporary workaround for (at least) the 787.
Usually, if you have a spoiler axis bound to your control, that usually overrides the auto-spoiler deployment. It’s not an SU6 specific, though. I’ve had this problem since I got my TCA Spoilers Addon.
If I bound the spoiler lever to the spoiler axis (as default profile), when I arm the autospoiler, it doesn’t deploy on landing as well. When I investigate it, what I found kind of makes sense. Because the actual position of the spoiler lever is constantly feeding the sim with the spoiler axis position. So if the lever is at the retracted position, it will always tell the sim to have the spoilers in the retracted position regardless. That’s why auto-spoiler deployment gets overriden by the axis position, because as soon as it starts to deploy, it receives a command from the hardware telling it to keep the spoilers retracted due to the position of the lever.
Same thing applies when you bind a virtual button on the spoiler lever with the spoilers axis bound as well. You can arm the autospoiler on the first detent or virtual button, like how Boeing arms it, but doing so will also open the spoilers at 20% because that’s where the auto-spoiler arm position is. And it will stay at 20% deployed until you move the lever again.
This is why I removed the Spoilers Axis binding from my hardware. Instead, I use digital input commands. Retract Spoilers on one position, Set Auto-spoilers arming on another position, and Extend Spoiler on the last position.
That way, you can still retract and deploy spoilers manually (although it would only be either 0% or 100%, and nothing in between). But you can position the lever into the arming position, and the sim will no longer receiving any axis position input (because we already removed it from the bindings).
So if you’re also using a different hardware, if you want to bind auto-spoiler arming, remove the spoiler axis from the hardware and just use Retract or Extend spoilers command.
Thank you for your answer. What you said make sense. but on the 787 I need, like I used to do before,to use the spoiler axis more frequently and also be able to arm it and extend automatically and also retract automatically .I have the flight yoke system of Logitech and 2 quadran: one (Airbus only for throttle and reverse and the Logitech quadran I use for spoiler(axis) first slider, gear on the second slider and flapps on the third slider.since the bigining of msfs 2020 it was always working fine .I was arming spoiler by using indifferently a digital button or extending manually to arm position. Now it doesn’t extend automatically and I noticed ,except the clic when armed , the special strident sound usually associated to the spoiler extend has also disappeared :that 's why I suspect a bug of SU6 rather than a conflict.
Of course for the moment I’ ve configured it like you said but I still hope to find a way to use it like before the update . Don’t hesitate to share if you find another solution.
Thank you very much for all you do for the community:+1:
Issue was finally fixed in SU6!
This was a bug. IRL the spoilers don’t retract automatically, neither on the 787 or the A320.
@RelativeBell177 fixed?
With the reversed armed and down position? I definitely disagree.
My original complaint was about the key binding not working. After su6 it now works.
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