SR22 Elevator Trim Reversed

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Are you using Developer Mode or made changes in it?

No

Which aircraft are you using that experiences this issue?

Cirrus SR22T G6

Brief description of the issue:

Experienced the elevator trim direction being reversed as compared to all other aircraft. This was noted while using the Flight Velocity Trim Wheel. To trim down required moving the trim wheel towards the pilot, and the opposite (moving wheel forward) to trim the aircraft up.

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Detailed steps to reproduce the issue encountered:

Started a new flight in the Cirrus SR22T G6, similar results.

PC specs and peripheral set up:

i9-9900KF CPU@3.60 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti
32 GB RAM
Flight Velocity Trim Wheel Pro

Are you using DX11 or DX12?

DX12 beta

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Yes

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  • Does trim work as expected with other aircraft?
  • Can you please provide a screenshot of the trim wheel’s mapping from the Controls screen?
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Started putting the new Cirrus SR22T through its paces.
I fly using a Velocity One Flight Yolk and I’ve noticed that the trim wheel is now working opposite to my other aircraft. When I trim up the aircraft goes down and when I trim down the aircraft goes up. Anyone else found this ??:+1::crazy_face:

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Same here. Interestingly, it behaves the same way on jets like the F-18 as well as Pilatus PC-21 that I bought from Iris.

On the SR22T, I immediately felt that the elevator is very heavy, much more so than most other small planes, did you notice something similar?

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Yes

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Also occurs with Honeycomb Bravo

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DX12

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No

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Yes, the trim wheel works as expected on all other aircraft I fly. There has been in the past at least one 3rd party aircraft purchased that initially had the trim wheel response reversed, but the makers soon made a bug fix. Here is a screenshot of the trim wheel’s mapping.

Cirrus 22 Trim 20231206
Cirrus 22 Trim 202312061920×1080 115 KB

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I had the same issue. I deleted my trim wheel mapping and my trim button on the top of the yoke handle works normally with the SR22. Like you said this is the only aircraft that isn’t playing nice with the TBV1 trim bug…

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Is the trim reversed for all peripherals or only that one? Are the trim bindings for Increase trim and Decrease trim reversed? Or only for that trim wheel?

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yes

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xbox series x

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no

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I use an x-box series X and trim is reversed compared to all default aircraft.

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Using a series X and the TB Velocity One, using the trim wheel…

I’d bet that for anyone else with a similar setup, you would find the same behavior on the F-18; rolling the trim wheel forward raises the nose instead of lowering it, exactly the reverse of the way it behaves on most other aircraft.

In my fleet, that makes it the F-18, the SR-22T and the Pilatus PC-21 that I bought from Iris, that all exhibit this revered trim wheel behavior.

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Which shouldn’t be a problem because these planes are using trim switches on the yoke/stick IRL.
Way too unrealistic and laborious to use an antiquated mechanical trimwheel…IMO.

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Yeah I agree, this isn’t a problem, but it is an interesting observation that perhaps others who have the same setup may be wondering as I am, is it a bug, or is it just the way the simulated aircraft is interpreting the inputs, and if so, why is it reversed in these limited examples?

The previous SR22 didn’t do this, so it was pretty noticeable for those of us using this particular flight yoke.

Tbh, the mechanical trim wheel on the V1 is probably the most enjoyable and tactile piece of that system; I personally love the way it matches up with many of the aircraft in the sim, and using it is rather sublime. :slight_smile:

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Here’s an older thread that I started on this issue which includes some additional investigation:

I’ve never flown the SR22 despite owning the Premium Deluxe version prior to this sim update. Was the trim wheel working correctly before? If the inversion is a new phenomenon, then maybe that will make the cause easier to identify and correct.

I also really like the V1 trim wheel but between the axis reversals and sudden nose down behavior since SU11, it’s also been terribly aggravating. :angry:

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I’ve reversed my rudder Axis in Control Settings on the V1FY and the rudder is now working correctly. As far as the rudder control on the V1FY it is second th none. :+1::crazy_face:

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FLC doesn’t command a climb as expected. For example, preset an altitude, take off, establish a climb and engage A/P: it enters level flight. Reselect FLC and set a climb speed, still no climb. Could this be a clue?

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ISSUE DESCRIPTION

Description of the issue: The trim wheel on the sr22 is reversed from the rest of the aircraft.

If applicable, which aircraft is experiencing this issue:SR 22

[PC Only] Did you remove all your community mods/add-ons? If yes, are you still experiencing the issue?Folder empty

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How often does this occur for you (Example: Just once, every time on sim load, intermittently)?Every time

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1.Using the Velocity Trim wheel Pro the rotation of the trim wheel is opposite the other aircraft
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What peripherals are you using, if relevant: Velocity trim wheel pro

[PC Only] Are you using Developer Mode or have you made any changes to it?No

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[PC Only] What GPU (Graphics Card) do you use?rtx 3060ti

[PC Only] What other relevant PC specs can you share?none

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